He wouldn’t have? Nobody ever gets their hands on guns where they are illegal? Or nobody who is disallowed ever uses guns to kill people? So that’s why we have no illegal drug use in this country!! Huh.
I’m not sure of anything, in fact (check’s post), yep, I said the fact that he had left “suggested” the spree was over. Not my strongest endorsement. You, however…
No hesitation in your own post.
All I’m saying is that [possibly] stopping a mass shooting spree 450 rounds in, after everyone in the building had already been hit and the shooter left isn’t exactly a stellar example of your point.
I admit it would have been better if someone in the church had shot him sooner, and given that it was in Texas, I’m a little surprised if that didn’t happen. But, apparently, the guy was wearing body armor, which would have given him a fair amount of protection from most handgun shots.
I still say that it is not reasonable to assume that the shooter was done killing people when he left the church.
And paying a fee for the background check. And all of that has to be done even if you just did it the week before. Trying hard to think of other constitutional rights that require background checks, forms and fees, and coming up empty.
Sure, I’ll admit that the fantasy is always better than the reality too. The shooters generally show up better prepared, more guns, more ammo, body armor, and are ready to kill. In every way they have the upper hand. Sometimes a good guy with a gun has improved the outcome, but it’s just not a workable strategy for preventing mass shootings. And in this case the reason we’re not talking about it isn’t because we’re unwilling to admit that a good guy saved the day, but because the facts don’t support that conclusion.
You and I are just going to have different definitions of what’s reasonable then. Per reports, there were 15 empty 30 round magazines in the church. How much ammo do you think this guy was carrying? What does 450 rounds weigh? He dropped his AR when he fled, probably because he had nothing left for it. All indications suggest that it was already over. I can’t say for sure he wasn’t going to shoot anyone, hell, there’s a good chance that he was mad his in-laws weren’t there and was going to go hunt them down with his sidearm, but it’s reasonable to think that the bulk of the shooting had already ended by the time the neighbor showed up.
I have noticed that mass murderers do not limit themselves to your weapon of choice. The one thing that all mass murderers do seem to have in common is their willingness to commit mass murder.
The 26th Amendment made it possible for people who were 18 to vote. Yet, I had to register to vote by filling out an onerous form! And in some states, I need an ID to vote! It’s very hard to vote. Much easier to buy a truck.
I’ve been to many gun shows and even bought a few guns there. I had to fill out the forms, have background checks and pay the fees every time. You are referring to person-to-person individual sales, which sometimes don’t require background checks etc., depending on the state and type of gun. There is no “gun show loophole” that I’ve ever seen.
What a stunning observation. What other tautologies can you tell us about? The one thing all grounds keepers do seem to have in common is their willingness to keep grounds. The one thing all basketball players have in common is their willingness to play basketball.
Now that we’ve got such brilliant observations under our belt, would you care to explain why you brought up a bombing in response to a post about truck/car attacks? Is it clever to point out that the bomb was transported in a truck?
All the stories I’ve seen is he dropped it in response to being hit twice(three?) by the neighbor. I haven’t seen mentioned if he had more ammo in his truck but he did still have two handguns when he fled.
I wouldn’t disagree with your assessment except he was a nutjob. He was mad at the world, thought religious people were stupid and somehow linked it all to his mother inlaw. If I were to make a SWAG, I’d say he was unhappy and despised people who were happy with their god. His MIL said something to drive home that point.
It appears that his in-laws were part of his motivation. At the very least, it’s not hard to think he would have continued to go after them. But who really knows? I think using the term “reasonable” is out of place regarding this guy, no matter who says it.
The guy had been drummed out of the military, had a history of domestic violence, had apparently escaped from a mental health center and had sent threatening text messages to his mother-in-law. The guy was a powder keg ready to blow.