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We’ve ordered from there exactly twice.
I will post this work e-mail conversation without comment, save for one at the end.
We’ve ordered from there exactly twice.
Sorry, is the $61.80 expensed to a work account? Or is everyone paying their own share?
How does that work if they’re charging for delivery? Doesn’t the tip come out of that?
$1 is too low but $10 is too high just for delivery and the tax shouldn’t be split evenly as Todd’s getting ripped off!
Everyone paid their share.
Todd would have been happy to kick in more than his share, as Todd doesn’t like to get his food spit in.
What did Todd order for $3.95, a dill pickle or something? I’d tip $5; just add it to Todd, bringing him up to $8.95. Nobody likes Todd anyway.
Well, my first thought is that people can on their own volunteer an extra $1, they know its getting delivered.
Dammit, no one likes me.
I just got soup.
How much tip can you get out of a $2 delivery charge? If they charged two bucks per person for delivery, I’d feel semi-comfortable in hoping the delivery guy might get tipped out of that, but not at two bucks for one large order of nine whatevers.
“Him” gives a whole dollar tip on a big order like that? There’s just no limit to his generosity. And y’all are planning to order from them on a regular basis? Good way to ensure next week’s order is cold.
You’re Todd? Damn, can’t go back and edit. Sooooo, how was the soup?
Yep, can’t unring that bell.
The soup was so-so. 1 shrimp, 1 scallop, and 2 little pieces of squid. And a tiny bit of rice. When I was done with it I felt like ordering a pizza.
I always figured the tip for delivery should be the same as you’d give a waiter, 15-20%.
The thing is, we didn’t give him the money up front, he paid for it and then collected the money afterwards.
We usually add a dollar per person when we order take out at work. It seems to work out ok.
For a tip, I’d say at least round up + $1 or so ($8.50 pays $10). This will also minimize the amount of change you have to make with the pot. Is this a delivery place (a la Pizza Hut or Papa Johns), or a regular restaurant that delivers? If it’s a place that only delivers I think a little less may be OK.
Regarding the tip you should focus on personal cost. Lowering your tip because “ZOMG…that means he gets a huge $X tip!” is failing at life. A 5 difference in tip is a mere .60 per person in a 8 person group.
I also say split the tax evenly. Yes, Todd gets hosed for a whole two dimes but I believe groups must make allowances for expediency or nobody’s ever going to volunteer to take the job of organizing lunch.
No, that goes to the store. The driver doesn’t see any of that.
having actually been a delivery guy for a couple of restaurants, i gotta say the following:
your typical delivery-person is paid x per delivery, with a guaranteed minimum of deliveries per shift, such that minimum wage laws are not violated. (i.e, min wage is $6.75/hour - appx what it was in my jurisdiction when i did these jobs - driver would be guaranteed to be paid 3 deliveries / hour, @ $2.25 per delivery.) driver keeps all tips, but is responsible for all maintainance, gas, insurance, etc. on their own vehicle, which they must use to make deliveries (even though, if driver is honest, driver is paying higher insurance rates than normal, for a ‘commercial vehical’.) discounts / refunds for late or wrong orders come out of driver’s pocket; even if some dipshit in the kitchen put sausage on a vegetarian pizza as a “joke” or the cashier stapled the wrong bill to the delivery package, or whatever happenned.
oh, and even though there is really only 2 - 3 hours in a given 8 hour shift where delivery drivers can really make any money, all speeding or parking, etc. fines are solely the responsibility of the driver.
so ya, tipping the delivery guy should be mandatory. and you should be giving him at least $2 - $5, depending not on the size of your order, but how far she had drive to get to you. and you should add $1 for every obscure wrinkle in directions they had to follow.
even when hustling tips, avoiding fines, and just plain working an ass off, your standard delivery person is still barely clearing $10 -$12 / hour.
i’ve worked delivery on nights, while busy, while getting every order right, and on time - factoring in gas, insurance, & a meal on the job (and i’m talking like pbj, or tuna, sammiches) - i’ve barely broke even.
a major reason why i don’t, & won’t do that kinda work again. but shit, i still must say, tip the delivery guy. it might be the only cash he makes that day.
Of all of the delivery places that I’ve heard of that charge a delivery fee, NONE of them give that whole amount to the delivery driver. It is often something like 1/3 of the charge, or something similar. It is always a pittance.
People that think that they’re “saints” for donating a buck to the driver, are delusional, and often receive cold food.
bob_loblaw if you actually had commercial insurance, you are the first person I’ve ever heard of that has actually had it while delivering. I have over 8 years of delivery business management under my belt, and I find that impressive (as well as largely unaffordable). I’ve also never heard of “a guaranteed minimum of deliveries per shift” ever. Where did you work?
Hmm, it was a little different when I did it. We weren’t paid per delivery nor were we guaranteed a number of deliveries. We were paid minimum wage ($5.15 or whatever it was at the time) plus something piddling like 25c per delivery for gas. If the pizza was made wrong, we lost out on time for bringing them a new one, but we weren’t responsible for the cost of the pizza or making up the difference for discounts because it was late or anything. The restaurant covered that stuff. I’ve never heard of what you’re saying about the driver being financially responsible for that stuff.
A delivery-only Thai place? Nope, I think it’s a relatively high-end eat-in place.
When we order next week, I’ll explain to the guy what you all have explained here. I’ll publicly volunteer to pay the whole tip if need be. I really don’t want to be part of a dollar-tip group. It’s embarassing.