Another X-Men movie question

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This is something that’s been bugging me ever since I first saw it. I recently rewatched the DVD, but I find it’s slow motion abilities lacking in helping me out.

Towards the end when Wolverine is trying to smash the machine and Magneto is using his powers to stop him, there’s a bit where Wolverine’s claws are covered in pink/yello/orange light and there’s sparks and shit floating around so you really can’t see well. Then, Wolverine’s arm jerks twice, sparks fly out from his hand, and two "pink"s follow the motion. then Magneto gets shot, Wolverine turns really quick, and that’s the ast you see of his claws. Is that implying Magneto ripped out two of his claws, or what?

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I didn’t even notice that.

I’d think it would have been mentioned. I was about to say we’d see injuries, but Wolverine being what he is, this wouldn’t be the case.

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I don’t think that it’s possible to rip out his claws. They’re attached to the rest of his adamantium skeleton, aren’t they? And Marvel has pretty well established that adamantium can’t be destroyed by anything less than cosmic powers, if even that. Magneto can only control Wolverine to the extent allowed by the hinges in the skeleton.

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Actually, Magneto pulled the adamantium out of Wolverine at one point. But in the movie, I don’t think the material of Wolvie’s claws was ever established.

–Cliffy

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I believe Jean Grey mentioned his claws were made of adamantium when she debriefed the other X-Men on her studies of his skeleton.

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They do mention that his skeleton is laminated “with an alloy called adamantium” in the flick, but make no real mention of its properties (whatever they may have been comics-wise).

Given secondhand knowledge of the comic books, I was sort of hoping they’d lump the Magneto-ripping-out-the-metal thing into it–from what I understand, the stuff was pretty much only handicapping Wolfy’s regeneration schtick.

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I will watch the movie tonight and see if I can see what it is you’re seeing. In the comics Magneto did pull off all the metal on Logan’s bones. It was then revealed that his claws were made of bone and were covered with adamantium like the rest of the bones in his body.

~t

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Drastic wrote:

In the comics, after Magneto rippled the adamantium out of Wolverine’s body, and Wolverine discovered (quite painfully) that he still had bone claws, it was established that his regenerative capability had been diminished, not enhanced. As Logan himself said, “My healing factor ain’t what it used to be.”

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Well, that was only because it had been taxed so much. As time went on, and Wolvie began deteriorating into “Feral Wolvie”, it became clear that the adamantium kept him from becoming some sort of primal animal-like person.

Or something.

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It was stated, at one point in the Onslaught sequence, that his healing factor was boosted. So much so that killing him would require severing his head and getting it several meters away from his body to prevent tissue regrowth.

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Okay, so if I’m following this correctly, the adamantium glaze on his skeleton a) made him heal faster, b) made him non-feral, and c) made him heal slower. Got it. (This is the deep and rich backstory that movie adapations miss, right?)

If the alloy is nigh-indestructible, how was it originally shaped and layered and such around all his bones?

Did he have adamantium coating on those tiny bones inside the middle ear?

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Or his teeth, for that matter.

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Molecule by molecule, I’d imagine.

Hell if I know.

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The schtick with Adamantium and Wolverine:

It was attatched to his body by being essentially “bombarded” onto his skeleton molecule by molecule. It was virtually indistructible. Originally, his claws were contained in seperate housings that were designed to make the claws slip out and in with but a thought.

Magneto liquified and ripped the adamantium out of Wolverine. The trauma from this action left his healing factor shot, and for a good long while, he couldn’t heal any better than a normal person.

Then, some fucker got ahold of the story and rewrote shit. Bowing down to fan-atics that “Wolverine’s just not Wolverine without his claws,” some dipshit decided to give Logan “bone claws,” and opted to avoid the opportunity to explore the character in a whole new light. In my opinion, that guy needs to be shot.

After a good long while of not doing too many stupid things, Wolvie’s healing factor “rested and recouperated,” and came back in full swing. In fact, it came back better than ever. It was discovered that Wolverine’s adamantium was “poisoning him,” and thus, his healing factor was slowed due to the fact it was constantly dealing with keeping him alive and non-poisoned.

Then, a bunch of Apocolypse’s people tried to infuse Wolvie with adamantium again, but he “sacrificed his humanity” to expell it and save Cannonball. This made him mutate into some funky animalistic beast with more body hair (suprisingly), big teeth, bigger claws, and a funny speach impediment. Apparently, with his healing factor working on keeping him from dieing from adamantium poisoning, his body was never able to fully mutate into his “ultimate form,” to use Dragonball Z wording. But, he was there now, and his healing factor was stronger than ever. Apparently, getting run over by a car and breaking several bones in his body only took about one minute to recover from.

Then, someone realized how stupid it was to have Wolverine running around with giant forearms and massive shag carpeting, and suddenly, he got better. But he still talks funny. And then Apocolypse gave him his adamantium back. Now, nobody asks any questions.

But as for the OP, they do mention his skeleton is laced with Adamantium and that it’s supposedly indestructable. There’s still the flash, jerk, “pink” thing at the end, but the movie leaves out enough about describing things, so if it was suppose to be him getting two claws pulled out, I’m not shocked they didn’t talk about it. I’m sure in the sequel he’ll have all six again, but still, I’m just curious as to how others view that.

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I thought that was just a peice of the machine that broke off and flew threw the air.

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From our local rag, the Victoria Times-Colonist :

Part of the first X-Men was filmed at Hatley Castle; it’s right next to where I work (old British coast artillery fort). In fact, we were approached by a location scout to provide a landing/refueling site for helicopters to be used in a nighttime “attack” on the castle, but said “no,” as it was considered too high risk/low return.

Here’s Hatley Castle:

http://www.royalroads.ca/per/tours/vt/castle.html

Neat old place: would have made a great “stately Wayne manor.”

I’ll keep my eyes open for any stray mutants running through the Fort or lighthouse…

You can see us (or at least Fisgard Lighthouse) in the straight-to-video/DVD Tom Berenger vehicle “Cruel and Unusual,” in a video store near you. It’s a charming tale of a psychopath masquerading as a lighthouse keeper…Oscar ™ will not be calling anytime soon.

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back in my junior high days, when i was big into wolverine, he got his adamantium through a process where he was submerged for months, probably, and the alloy was pumped into him and forced to adhere to his bones. but right before i basically gave up on comics, it was revealed to all be an implanted memory.

fuck marvel comics. right around 1993 or so everything got really stupid.

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Geez, thanks for the back story Red Elvis.

Sounds to me like things have gotten so ludicrous in the Marvel universe back-story wise that they should perhaps start from scratch with the charactors and storyline – sort of like one of those little countries that has to devalue their currancy after they’ve run amok for too long.

Actually, I seem to remember they tried printing an “X-Man Classic” line back when I was in junior high. Guess it didn’t catch on.