I’m a light smoker myself, and my feelings are much like wakimika’s. I don’t have any beef with open aired stadiums banning smoking. I’ve always felt it incredibly rude to smoke when in such close proximity to many other people. I never smoke in resteraunts either, even when it’s allowed (when I’m out of state of course), because I think it’s just, icky. Can’t really explain it. They allow smoking on the outdoor patios of a few restaunts here and my X used to get really annoyed at me when I wouldn’t let him smoke there. I just felt like such an inconsiderate bitch smoking around all those obviously, non smokers. Same for people that smoke while waiting in lines. That’s VERY obnoxious because the people around you are stuck in those lines, inhaling your smoke.
That’s probably why few people actually know that I smoke regularly. I can go quite a bit without having one, since I won’t unless it’s an appropriate time and place.
I’ve rambled on so long here, I’ve forgotten my point.
Smoking is a disgusting habit, IMO and I would love it if some of those smoking bans would float down here to Houston. I doubt it will happen, as the South tends to be one of the places where no one cares what the trends are and everyone is happily absorbed in their own vices. We like it that way…
That being said, I hate it when people smoke in bars, particularly on the dance floor. Drunk people weilding tiny torches are dangerous, and not just to my lungs. Cigarette butts all over the ground at the grocery store, or mall really get on my nerves as well. Why is not considered littering to throw those things anywhere you happen to finish them?
Don’t get me started on people who smoke in their homes and cars with children and infants. I don’t care if you don’t like or believe what the studies say, inhaling the smoke can’t be GOOD for you.
~J
~~ I do agree that you didn’t have to put out the cigarette at the bar if it was a smoking establishment. I’ve never asked anyone to do such a thing (not saying I haven’t wanted to) but it’s not my choice. If someone is being particularly obnoxious with a cigarette, I simply move.~
This hits the nail you know where. I smoked for a long time (no longer do), and I would put out the Marlboro even in a place that allowed smoking if someone told me it was bothering him. But a place where the owner prohibited it–too bad. If I wanted to smoke, I went somewhere else. Didn’t matter what I wanted.
Well, that and the fact that in Houston, exhaled cigarette is the cleanest air available.
Speaking of which – we’ve been under the smoking ban in NYC for a couple months now, and I can report that the only thing that smells worse than a smoky bar is a bar without smoke to cover the other smells. I’m gonna make a fortune making smoke-scented air additives and selling them to dive bars as soon as I can figure out how to encapsulate the stuff correctly.
Tell you what, why don’t you just spray the carbon monoxide, toluene, acetone, ammonia, 2-naphthylamine, 4-aminobiphenyl, arsenic, and benzene on my food with a plant mister? It would be just as effective, and it wouldn’t smell as bad.
Well, I try to inhale directly from the exhaust pipe of my truck as frequently as possible. It cuts out the middle man.
I can understand that…People seem particularly inclined to make bars the nastiest places possible. Cleaning up at the end of the night usually includes both pushing in the chairs AND throwing away empty bottles!
It’s funny how people hate second hand smoke, but don’t understand that driving to work is just as bad, even worse. When you smoke haters drive through traffic, did you know that all the cars around you are pumping out a gazzillion times the amount of smoke a human could? Have you seen how much smoke comes out of one motor? Your surrounding by hundreds, thousands of cars with your commute to work, and you’re breathing about half air, half exhaust. These are the same people that keep a sqeeky clean house and wonder why their children have allergies.
Sorry to be blunt, but this thread IS about smoking, and not about pollution.
It doesn’t matter if you think pollution is worse, it’s not relevant to the topic at hand. (Isn’t this what you guys call a Strawman? Clarification please.)
You have no idea how any of us feel about pollution. We can be smoke haters and pollution haters at the same time.
matt… are you trying to get on a moral high horse here and posit that because you don’t drive, it makes you more virtuous and thus in a better position to take a stand against smoking?
I don’t know matt_mcl and therefore hate to speak on his behalf, but I think his point is rather similar to my own.
It’s not valid in this discussion. He’s in the same position regardless of whether he drives an electric car, a gas guzzling SUV or a horse drawn carriage.
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Will the drivers have to go from those headsets used to communicate with the pits to handheld cell phones? Can’t you see it; driving at nearly 200 mph with one hand while talking on a cell phone?
