…but also freaking out over this bill in CA:
http://www.modernalternativehealth.com/2016/12/10/californias-sb-18-parental-rights-gone/
I see nothing in the text of the bill (embedded in article) saying that kids would be yanked out of their homes for not getting vaxed or whatever.
Thanks in part to the efforts of antivaxers, Romania has experienced thousands of new measles cases, and 17 dead.
Italy is also seeing an upsurge in measles.
Shilling for Big Pharma again, aren’t you?
What you are ignoring is that none of those 17 are ever going to get autism. How about that, Dr. Smartypants?
If you do respond, make sure to speak up - I have hearing loss in one ear from measles as a child, because I wasn’t vaccinated (the vaccine wasn’t available).
But it’s wholesome, natural, organic hearing loss! And I don’t have autism!
Regards,
Shodan
You’re running up against Poe’s Law there. Bet someone takes you seriously.
As long as I don’t run up against Rule 34, I’m golden.
Regards,
Shodan
I guess you cannot argue with stupid. These people piss me off.
And yet you did, in this post…
I posted the link about the Romanian measles outbreak in another online discussion, and promptly got a response from an antivaxer suggesting that many more deaths were due to vaccine-induced autism. :dubious:
Most of it sounds silly, but the Klingon cuisine class might be entertaining.
Right. We all know how deadly autism can be.
No.
HIPAA imposes civil (and, in some cases, criminal) penalties if healthcare providers release information without consent except in a few narrowly-defined circumstances.
But if you’re not covered by that prohibition, then if you are able to get your hands on that information you can more or less do what you please with it. There might be civil or criminal liability depending on the means by which you came across that information (e.g. if you hacked into the hospital to get it you’d probably be screwed), but if you obtained it via legitimate means (including if a covered health care worker illegally disclosed it to you–they’re fucked, but you’re in the clear since you’re not covered by HIPAA) then you’re completely fine. That’s why, for example, Adam Schefter faced no legal liability for tweeting documents relating to Jason Pierre-Paul’s hand injury a couple of years ago–the information was (probably illegally) leaked to ESPN, but while the leaker may have been covered by HIPAA and so subject to penalties, ESPN wasn’t.
It’s kind of like with publishing classified information: it’s illegal for someone with clearance for the information to share it without authorization, but if you don’t have a clearance and someone else (illegally or otherwise) shares it with you, you can publish it.
Now, whether it’s a good idea to actually do so or not is, of course, a completely different matter.
Frankly, they should be.
Absent a compelling medical reason, if a parent does not have their children vaccinated then they are demonstrating that they lack the judgment necessary to make good decisions about their childrens’ care and well-being.
Fuck that shit. Children shouldn’t suffer in their social and intellectual development because they had the bad luck to be born to inept morons.
It should be required that all children be vaccinated, period, absent an individualized professional medical determination to the contrary.
What do you base this belief on? Actual evidence? Or because it just feels right?
You’re right, it’s not good enough. Those two years are plenty of time for them to contract a deadly or debilitating disease that could have been prevented if they were vaccinated.
Yes. You don’t get to endanger children’s safety and well-being just because you feel like it. You have duties to your children, including protecting them to the extent possible, and if you’re not willing to do that because of shit you just made up then you really shouldn’t be the one making decisions for those children.
In the meantime, my aforementioned niece keeps posting more anti vax stuff on her timeline.
So now it’s immoral and ungodly to get the kids vaccinated, and getting measles that’s a good thing because you can easily treat it with vitamins and it will build up your immunity if you get it too.
I worry about her 3 year old and one year old.
You can get the vaccine earlier if you have actually had shingles, because you can get shingles more than once, but the vaccine will prevent further outbreaks. I don’t know how often the vaccine must be repeated. My husband had the shingles in his early 40, and he got the vaccine about six months after he recovered, and insurance paid for it.
Worry more. Natural immunity is NOT better, at least when it comes to measles. There is evidence that after having measles (but not the vaccine), your immune system develops this bias, and ignores other pathogens while keeping up its vigil for measles. So having measles weakens your immune system in regard to everything but measles. This lasts a couple of years.
Worry about any one-year-old and below in a place with vaccine numbers below herd immunity, because less than one-year-olds can’t have the MMR yet.
I actually had some dimbulb argue with me that measles aren’t that bad, and her evidence was the episode of The Brady Bunch where all the kids got it.
Right. They’re really gonna have the episode where Bobby gets encephalitis and dies.