Hi there.
I’m having a little problem that I’m hoping some relativists can assist with. Essentially, I need to ask a question, and hopefully find a satisfactory answer from a relativist worth his salt.
This isn’t so much a, “This is how I feel, and if you feel differently, lets cyber-argue till someone is left in the crushing grip of reason” type of things. Its more of a straight up, honest question that I’ve had as regards the whole relativistic movement in general–I think it mostly pertains to moral relativism, but it…kind of…sort of…touches on other areas of the idea on the whole.
Before posing said question, I will apologize to any who may have been expecting something juicy; my question is fairly simple. The problem is that I have never seen any concrete, relativist rebuttal against it, and though it was for this reason I figured the entire concept had more or less died, I’ve recently discovered that relativism…at least in my circles…is still alive and well, which naturally brought me back to my initial problem with it, and which by extension, brings me here, with an eager hope of finding some real, live, relativists in the wild. Again–its pretty simple, and something that relativists must naturally be forced to overcome before they even become relativist, but no ones ever gave me anything resembling a satisfactory answer.
Okay, so without further adieu, the problem I’ve always felt was intrinsic in relativism, and the issue that brings me here today, is that of the assertion by relativists that there is no absolute truth, and by extension, no absolute moral truth.
For such assertions undeniably end up sounding like, “yaddayaddayadda, MEANS, that there cannot be any absolute and/or moral truth.” This to me is an absolute statement; which therein lies my problem. How, while believing in relativism, can one then turn about face and start making absolute statements…such as…“I’m right.”, or, “You’re wrong.” Please don’t mistake me…I know some smart folks have believed such things, so I’m not saying there isn’t a…“eloquent,” in the very least…answer to this problem, but regardless, I still would love to hear it. I suppose one could try saying that “There are no truths, except for the fact that are no truths.” If you assert that the only statement to be made in the way of a universal truth is that universal truths don’t exist, I feel you may have settled for a paradox (the only reason I bring this up, is because for some reason I feel like I’ve heard someone try to explain how it makes sense…idk).
So thats more or less it; nothing too fancy. Like I said, I’m more interested in being informed as to how the idea has become popular, than I am in arguing ourselves silly; so when I respond to any argument made in favor of R., please don’t think I’m trying to overcome you intellectually, but simply trying to fill in some gaps, and cover every angle, of a question that my less then advanced mind is less then proficient in comprehending. Thanks in advance for anyone willing to pander to me.
Edit:(sigh)…and yes…I spelled the thread title wrong. Apologies, lol.