Well, I’d like to know why “contrary to evolution” = “bad and should be illegal”. I have no intention of having children; should I be forced to breed ?
Evolution is just a description of how biology/genetics works and changes; it’s not a recommendation or a mandate for anything.
Can I ask a question? Is it possible to be against same-sex marriage and not be anti-homosexuals ?
No. I don’t think it’s possible to hold homosexuals to a different legal standard than heterosexuals without betraying a prejudice against homosexuals.
Yes it is. I have several gay friends who are against SSM because they feel that as gay people we shouldn’t want to be part of the straight lifestyle.
But nobody would be forcing same-sex couples to get married. The ones who don’t want to be part of the straight lifestyle (whatever that means) wouldn’t have to get married. The ones who think that they should be allowed to decide whether other same-sex couples get married or not- they’re as bad as the religious nuts who want to make everyone live the “right” way.
That is at once the saddest and stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
I totally agree with you. Wasn’t saying I agreed with them just that I know people who are not at all homophobic but are against SSM.
Oh, don’t worry, I understand that. Although, just based on your comment about your friends, it does sound like they might be heterophobic. Which would mean we can still say that there’s no non-bigoted reason to oppose SSM, we just have to recognize that the stupidity sometimes flows both ways.
Are you f**king serious? I have never known, nor heard of, one religious person who believes in God specifically because religious people live longer.
Married people live longer than single people, but I seriously doubt that most people get married for that reason.
I think what he’s arguing is that most people are religious because people who aren’t, are dead.
Not that it’s necessarily a better argument…
A Repbulican Senator recently said that he was proud to report that there had not been a homosexual or a divorce in his family for generations.
But, of course, it’s wrong to call that bigotry, because that’s politically incorrect now.
Yeah, I heard about that asshat.
I’m seriously surprised ther ehasn’t been a bigger outrage about that.
Yes it is possible, on economic grounds (to which I alluded earlier). I can see an employer opposing same-sex marriage because it would expand the number of individuals covered under that employer’s health care plan, and thus increase the premiums the employer must pay.
Now, to be fair, what Inhofe is reported to have said was “I’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.”
Perhaps his recorded family history only goes back five or six years.
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I’m also an heterosexual and an atheist – does my vote count double or triple? 
To address the issue seriously – I can actually see some atheists who might oppose SSM for “cultural” reasons – y’know, like plenty of otherwise normal people in the 50’s who hated Rock’n’Roll because it was just too different?
As you may be able to tell, I wouldn’t agree with such a POV, but I can see it happening.
I would argue that this is almost (if not as) prejudiced as those bigots who oppose gay marriage to mask their own homophobia- although in this case the term would, I suppose be heterophobia. Seriously, I think the whole “withdraw from bigoted society” movement amongst (admittedly) persecuted minorities is bloody stupid, not least because in doing so they oppose measures that would benefit the vast majority of people who share their (in this case) sexual preference. Thanks Bob none of the folks I know are like this.
It’s hardly a persuasive argument, though, considering it is both limited in scope and motivated by unusually petty self-interest.
bustles up to throw his weight behind Der Trihs’s ambition never to breed
Couldn’t tell what level of irony you’re on here with the winky. Did you read the OP or just the title?
Oh, puh-lease. Are you suggesting that belief in a supernatural god is genetic?
Yes, he is, and he’s right. There is a genetic tenedency* towards belief in the supernatural:
Google “god gene” and you’ll find lots of examples.
*Sigh. Some scientists belief, and in my opinion are correct, that…