If so, how do you account for the lack of sasquatch bones in the La Brea Tar Pits, or anywhere else? Wouldn’t there be bones? Wouldn’t somebody have found some by now? The existence of one organism implies the existence of a breeding population, not only at present but into the indefinite past. American paleontologists have had a long time to dig freely within a country at peace. They have never found any hominid fossils or remains, never even found any bones of an anthropoid ape, or any primates at all except for New World monkeys and their ancestors. (Not even those, in North America – the monkeys seem to have migrated directly from Africa to South America 40 million ya.)
I see what you’re doing here;) but what the heck, I’ll bite anyway. So I’ll go so far as to say that I’m keeping an open mind in re sasquatches. Some of the reported sightings are pretty credible, and descriptions have been fairly consistant, even dating back to pre-settlement times. So yes, I think it’s at least possible that there could be a small breeding population somewhere out back of beyond, living quietly and avoiding human contact.
One argument for this possibility is the sheer size and complexity of what is supposed to be sasquatch habitat. I’ve worked, hunted and hiked in some of that country; for someone used to the more populous regions it is impossible to imagine the sheer vastness, the remoteness of the Northwestern mountains. One can see how a few sasquatches could avoid detection.
Take the Cougar, Puma concolor, for example. The wildlife folks say populations are expanding, they’re everywhere here in the western states. I’ve spent a great deal of time in prime cougar habitat, have no doubt they’ve watched me, but I have never, ever seen one of the bloody things (always wanted to). But a shy, intelligent animal that wishes to avoid human contact can easily do so.
The La Brea tar pits angle doesn’t really mean anything. That region may never have been their habitat, or maybe they were just smart enough to avoid getting trapped. A lot of existing animal types have not been found in the tar pits, or in fossilized form. As to the lack of carcasses or bones, well, tens of thousands of animals die in the field every year, but one rarely finds carcasses lying about. Nature has a pretty efficient disposal system.
So I’ll say it’s possible, if somewhat unlikely.
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I doubt the existence of sasquatch, but I don’t rule it out. The fact that we haven’t found one in the La Brea pits is a lame ass argument against it.
You know who else has no bones left behind in the La Brea tar pits? That’s right Mark Twain. How do we know he existed? He left behind books. Maybe we should be looking in the libraries for Sasquatchi. I highly doubt they existed though but I would be highly interested if they did/do.
Yes, I know, it was just an example. But, I don’t think the bones in the tar pits are of animals who were “trapped” there, only of those who happened to die there and then their bones, eventually, got preserved in tar. Which didn’t happen often, but it happened on odd occasions for a long enough time that the pits are just full of Pleistocene-to-modern bones.
No, fossilization only happens to really old bones, but really, is there any existing animal type whose bones have never been dug up?
I don’t think that’s the case. Plenty of skeletons are there because their owners got stuck.
Sasquatch. Duh.
The bigfoot tape is a known hoax, somebody admitted to making the costume.
Other than bigfoot, no evidence exists of the other monsters.
I was certain this was the path to Godwinization. Would have been perfectly legit, too. I’m reasonably certain no Nazi bones will be found in the tar.
OP: I don’t disbelieve. SeldomSeen’s post about cougars gives a pretty good example (although cougar dens are pretty easy to spot, even if their owners aren’t). You could probably squeeze 500-1000 Bigfoots in the forests between Oregon & Alaska. If they’re shy and smart, maybe nocturnal, they could stay well-hidden. But I question whether something smart enough to want to stay hidden would not ultimately become curious enough to check us out from time to time. And maybe that’s what’s happening with the rare, lone encounters.
this thread is sooooooo nineteen eighties!!!
It seems to me that Big Foot sightings, like UFO sightings , lost all their sex appeal after about 1991…when cell phones became popular.
And they got even more boring now that the phones all have cameras.
A mystery is no fun if you’ve got the tool to solve it right there in your pocket.
Yes, but to the best of my knowledge all living large mammals from North America have been found as fossils and/or in archeological sites.
I think even more telling than the lack of fossils is the lack of any significant Native American artifacts associated with Sasquatch. Surely a human-like creature would figure very prominently in indigenous myths and legends, but there are only a few vague references. And the hide or bones of such creatures would be regarded as powerful magic and be preserved by shamans and in medicine bundles, but there are none. While it is highly unlikely that Sasquatch remains would not have been found in the recent past, it’s impossible that Native Americans would never have found any over a period of thousands of years of co-existence.
What are they?
Actually there have been a few artifacts.
From Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_regarding_Bigfoot
Again, nothing conclusive, but definitely intriguing. I’m still holding out for the possibility of sasquatches in our woods.
Of all primates, only the Baboon and the Human thrive in areas without significant fruit resources. There are limited wild fruit resources in Europe and North America, compared with Sub-Sahaharan Africa, or Southeast Asia. So, we’re not a promising site for primates.
Most of North America has an annual hunting season for wild game, in the Autumn. Men, familiar with the outdoors and skilled in tracking & stalking wild game, go out by the thousands, every year, armed with shotgun, rifle, carbine. crossbow, or longbow. We’ve been doing this throughout the Colonial period, the Pre-Civil War Era, the Golden Age of the American West (would the Mountain Men and trappers have failed to catch one? I don’t think so.), through two World Wars, & into the current Postmodern Era. Nobody has ever bagged one yet! If they had, they could have been rich & famous overnight. I’ve lived in the Wisconsin countryside, & in the mountains of East Tennessee. I’ve known the outdoorsmen who live there, thrive, & love the back country. Believe me: if Bigfoot existed, they’d have shot one by now.
Cant prove unicorns dont exist either.
Just no persuasive evidence they do, ie actual biological remains.
Otara
I’m more of a hopeful agnostic. I want there to be one - but until they find a body I’m not a believer.
Doesn’t evidence indicate that a bionic person is protecting bigfoot? I kind of remember a documentary I saw as a kid.
An interesting comparison is the contention that there is now a population of feral chimpanzees living in the Everglades. Whatever else is true or not, we do know that there is such a thing as a chimpanzee.
If the sasquatch exists it is a hitherto unknown primate. It might not need fruit.
OK, I’ll bite. Which ones do you think are most credible, and why?
>>Any believers here in Bigfoot/Sasquatch/the Florida Skunk Ape?
He’s never lied to me.