Just picked up Eve Online from the 50% off special on Steam. It seems insanely comprehensive and has a learning curve to match.
I’m fairly well-versed in MMOs. I’ve played DAoC for 7 years, WoW for ~1 year, and various others for smaller amounts of time. None of them seem to compare. Right when you start, there is just so much shit on the screen. I’m used to running to a guy, getting a starter weapon, questin, etc. Eve is different for a variety of reasons, but I’m just looking for someone that can maybe show me the ropes, invite me to a “corp” (is that the term for guild in this game?), and so on. Any help would be appreciated.
I’m reading the Eve wiki whenever I can, but nothing really beats someone that has been through the trials.
Another thing: The devs need to update this game to be more compatible with large monitors/high resolutions. I’m rockin’ 2 460 GTX video cards on a 23" monitor, so the native resolution is 1920x1080. Reading the font is near impossible!
Don’t trust anyone you don’t know well - scamming people is not against the rules, and the game’s community fully supports and encourages scamming noobs. You should play like everyone is out to get you… because most of them are. Killing some poor newbie who just spent all his money on a new ship is not a way to get shunned, but a way to earn respect.
Don’t do asteroid mining, don’t train any skills for it. People using bots to mine (which is against the rules, but not heavily policed), people multi-boxing (running like 5 accounts on 1 computer) and people refining mission loots have driven the prices for minerals to such ridiculously low levels that there’s no money in it. Even mining the top end minerals (which requires you to be in a corp that controls them) with a completely maxed out character in the best mining ship in the game (a year + of skill training plus billions of credits of equipment) will only net you as much per hour as maybe a month worth of training doing lvl 3 - lvl 4 mission in (almost) perfect safety in empire space. Missions also train the same skills used for PvP, asteroid mining trains skills that are otherwise completely useless.
Industry (manufacturing) can be profitable, but there are a LOT of stupid people doing it selling stuff for under cost (bad at math, or just lazy? who knows) and there are a LOT of people botting undercutting prices on the market (i.e. changing the price of their stuff to 0.01 isk less then your stuff the instant you change your price) so it’s frustrating. If you’re very careful and find the right things and a good place to sell them you can make some money but it’s time consuming and risky.
Don’t leave the starter corp unless you’re sure you are ready - you can never rejoin it. Player corps can declare war on each other and attack without repercussions even in secure space, and there are people who go around declaring war on newbie corps just so they can fly around constantly killing them. The starter corps are immune to being declared on, so you’re protected from that. A lot of non-newbie corps have a minimum skill point requirement (usually 6 months - 1 year’s worth) so they won’t let you in, anyway.
You can increase the font size, there’s a button that says… I think like A+ and A- to increase/decrease it.
Thanks for the tips. I figured some form of botting would be prevalent here. It’s been visited on mostly any other game I’ve ever played with a progressive economy.
I was actually going to work on mining right when I got home from work. Is it easier just to purchase these materials from others? Sounds like it from your description.
Scamming I know very well. I don’t plan on doing much player interaction until I absolutely have to for fear of being scammed. We’ll see how that plays out.
The game interface gives you enough information to avoid being scammed as long as you are careful. It’s worth taking a trip to Jita and having a good look at the contracts offered in the trade channel (popular Eve urban legend suggests that someone saw a legit trade in there once)
And don’t be put off by what people are saying about the community, it isn’t so much that the Eve community are jerks (although the game isn’t jerk free), it’s more that the overriding philosophy is aggresively Darwinian.
If you respond to the inevitable setbacks with good humour you will almost certainly be pleasantly surprised by the lengths that people will go to help you out, if you bitch about losing a ship you will find very little sympathy.
And give me a yell in game if you need a hand - character name is “shival tornet”
I am willing to give you advice in game, I live in null sec and really cant go hi sec [we have a couple war declarations on us most all the time] but if I am in game I can talk =) I [play as Aruvqan, Charles Dealy, Aruvqan Falk most of the time.
Things are sort of odd for me right now, Northern Coalition is having issues, and I just had to move all my crap out of Branch to Fade and I am still finding my way around.
There did used to be a SDMB corp in game, I think I am about the last person that was in it that remembers it
Join EVE university, some great people there that like to teach.
And mining is still a way to make isk - but you have to train all the way to hulk/mackinaw and do it professionally. I use 4 accounts, and mine with 3 characters into the 4th who is flying an orca command ship. [and I am not bots !] Ice mining with a mack can be profitable, you need ice products to fuel player owned stations and jump ships. And it can be done in relative safety in hi sec.
Spinning? You mean the ship in the hangar? They don’t have that any more, now you get out of your pod and are in your captains apartment. I am currently sitting on my couch…
I mainly want to do mining because I enjoy it. It seems like a relatively passive trade and there seems to be some allowance for doing it casually while still making some money.
I’ll contact those that listed their information in game soon
I’m looking for some pointers on where to go next.
I’m mining solo high-sec w/ a hulk and one account. Using crystals, the yield is pretty good. I can make probably 5-6 mil/hr. Okay for my standards, but like most people, I find myself wanting more.
What is the next logical step? How does an Orca work? Is it possible to use a hulk/orca (2 accounts) in tandem and such? Do you park an orca somewhat close and have jet cans be sent to it? I’ve heard that you need 3x hulk before running the duo becomes worth it, but I’m just looking for clarification.
I already have high refining/production skills, so I can make a decent bit of money, but I’m looking to expand to another account and find ways to increase my yield.
Thanks.
Also, anyone in a corps. want to invite me in? I’m relatively new to the game, but I picked up a char after doing a lot of research and skipped a lot of the mundane training. That said, I’m still a novice in many regards. I basically mine and run missions while training production skills on the side.
Orca takes a lot more training, if you load evemon and pop in your character you will see what you need to train to get into the naked orca. Then you need to consider what you need to fly it efficiently. I have mine maxed out with 2 t2 cargo rigs and 1 t1 cargo rig to increase the stowage in the main cargo hangar. Then I use mods in the top slot - 1 to shorten the laser cycle time of the mining ships, a tractor beam and a salvager 1 to clean up the dead rats [salvage is another good source of income while you are sitting there anyways] and I have t2 drones that I use to kill the NPC rats that wander past periodically. That way my mining ships do not have to worry about getting killed by the rats. I only have to worry about hulkageddon in hi sec. [a contest that some corp puts out periodically where they give out prizes for most miner kills] You can while in fleet drop your cargo directly into the internal corp hangar and sort it into the ore hangar and cargo hangar, and when you have 180 000 m3 of space to stash shit in, it makes runs back to the station a lot less frequent. That is why I mine with aruvqan in the orca, and 3 other accounts in hulks or macks.
You are frequently better off in the newb corp, nobody can declare war on your corp and kill you in hi sec that way.
And of course implants and drones… and other odds and ends of training. I think it took me about a year of training to go from basic pilot to flying an orca. I actually had one of the earlier orcas in the game. I started training up for them as soon as I heard about them, and could find the listing of skills I needed. Of course it took picking up the final book as soon as it hit the market when they added them to the game. Of course, I can also fly the other cap indy, the Rorqual as well =)
Well, I’m not noob. But, any advice from the teeming millions about a character about to come out of retirement? I’ve trained some of the “learning” skills and my understanding is that these are now defunct and the SPs have been refunded. So can I instantly train X SP worth of skills when I reinstate my account? What should I train?
I’m a passable combat pilot with the requisite skills to fly a Hyperion. Most emphasis is on drones and railguns. I started my career as a miner and can fly a Hulk, have basic salvage skills, pretty advanced probing skills and can also do covert ops and I think I also have a stealth bomber (I honestly don’t remember, but even if I can fly the damned thing, I don’t have the weapon skills to use it effectively).
So, what do I train when I get back into things? I’m thinking about improving combat, since so much of my training is elsewhere. Any suggestions for prepping for mission grinding? Also, I have no in game ties. Any suggestions on a corp or alliance? I’m willing to relocate if need be.
Yes, you just put the skill points into something, with one of my characters I had a bunch of skill books sitting around that I crammed in and added points and ended up with level 2 and 3 in something like 12 or 13 different skills, on another character I topped off the planetary skills all to 5.
I would log in, and see where you have positive faction, and run a few missions just to see how things are shaking out. I would recommend EVE University to brush up your skills and get more advice on what changed since you last played. Don’t go with a corp for a while, try meeting some players and missioning or PVPing to see how you get along. Best way to get to know random players is go out mining and chat in local and see how it shakes out.
I know I have a few systems I ice mine in when I am in hi sec, usually one of each racial ice - there tends to be a lot of chatting going on.
Then the nausea, then the headaches, then shutting it off after 20 minutes.