Any fireworks experts?

I live in NJ where consumer fireworks are illegal, but while driving through Pennsylvania I saw a sign on the highway for a professional fireworks warehouse recently opened to the public. With the Fourth coming I figured why the hell not pick up a few for the beach. What I’d like to know is if there is a website where I can find reviews or even videos of the products I selected and what the basic fireworks operational and safety procedures are.

The products I got were between $13 and $24:

ShowTime “Bad Bombs” 12 different maximum load shells with mortar tube (the box says they shoot flaming balls and reports… what’s a report?)

Black Cat “Extreme Firepower” Dot Class C Consumer Fireworks 1.4G UN0336 with glitter, whistle, crackle, comet, bees, bursts, tails and reports (what are those things?)

“Wow” 18 Triple Bursts

Black Cat “Big Bubba” 25 shots with 90% more powder weight than normal cakes (what’s a cake?), shoots “huge comets to color crossettes and crackles”

Basically, I’m trying to find out if I bought good stuff, what the jargon means, and how to use it without killing myself or burning down someone’s house. Thanks for your help :slight_smile:

— P.S. Happy Father’s Day

cainxinth you do know that if you buy them in PA then bring them into NJ you are committing a crime. You have to use them in PA.

For the sake of argument, let’s assume that’s what I intend to do. :wink:

'bout all I know is that a ‘report’ is a loud boom.
At least, that’s all the illegal fireworks I’ve bought that say ‘report’ on them ever seem to do.

A report is an explosion.

A mortar is what it sounds like – a simple tube that shoots up (colored and/or exploding) charges, of various numbers and report-counts.

A “cake” is a wide cylindrical (vaguely cake-shaped) array of individual mortar tubes (you won’t see them, perhaps, as they may be covered by a thin sheet of paper for protection. It will shoot up various combinations of banging, and starburst, and whizzing/crackling, charges, usually in sequence over a period of several seconds. The bigger ones can be pretty cool indeed.

Class C explosives are basically any consumer fireworks (legal in some states, not in others; I don’t purport to know the rules on carrying personal use quantities from one regime to another). They have a maximum powder-charge limit (this is true for all Class C fireworks, whether bottle rockets, mortars, firecrackers, etc.) Class B explosives include larger-charge items (e.g., M-80 firrecrackers, as well as professional-quality mortar tubes and arrays. Class A would be your commercial explosives. You’d need a permit of one sort or another for A or B; I’d imagine these are significantly harder to come by post 9/11.

Safety is just a matter of common sense. Never hold anything in your hand (unless it would be really neat to do so). Never lean your face over anything that may go up. Stay away from duds and misfires; drench them with water after a few minutes. Don’t shoot toward people or dry brush.

“glitter, whistle, crackle, comet, bees, bursts, tails and reports (what are those things?”

They are pretty self descriptive. They all go into the air, so don’t set them off under a tree a dry field or near alot of houses.

comet: looks like, guess what? yep a comet…
Bees: they lightup & buzz around like crazy, like a bee
bursts: an explosion in the sky. reports are just flash salutes, e.g. bang.

They should have instructions on them on how to use them.

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, there were no instructions more enlightening than “light fuse and run” or “do not place head over tube.” I didn’t want to miss an important detail if there was one.

Is anyone familiar with the products or brands that I got? Is it good stuff? Also, do class C fireworks compare to the professional shows?

No comparison. Full stop.

Still, it’s fun and pretty.

Pyrotechnics regulations by state:
http://pyrotechnics.org/regs.html

Then http://www.fireworks.com/fireworks_gallery/

Oh, that is such a nice site…I can just smell some of that smoke. Just in case you get any ideas, you can’t order from the website,whew, but its got more info than you need to know.
" Merchandise must be purchased at a Phantom Fireworks Showroom."

I like this:
HIGH PERFORMANCE DISPLAY
Item #: G-155
Category: Grucci Collection
500 gram maximum load finale repeater. Featuring the latest in pyrotechnic special effects.
$79.00

Also this one:
WARHEAD LAUNCHER
Category: Helicopters, Planes & UFOs

Or

PHANTOM CRACKLING JET
Item #: K-061
Category: Helicopters, Planes & UFOs
This Phantom exclusive brings a crackling twist to the outer space jet. This whirling jet shoots upward with a loud crackling take-off and silver spray. 6 pieces per box.

Black Cat is considered a ‘premium’ brand. There are a couple of others. Mostly, I think it’s just trial and error figuring out what you like and what is lame. This stuff is mostly made in China under dubious quality control standards, and I’ve never been sure who comes up with the designs (or names – “Monkey Violating Heavenly Palace,” anyone?).

Yeah, there are limits to what Class C can do, but especially if you get one of the big multi-shot cake-type things (e.g., 96 shots), you can put on a pretty good little show for friends and family.

I would be wary of the mortars.

Think about it: This is a cardboard tube made in china that is supposed to contain an explosion and direct it to launch a projectile with a secondary explosive device.

While working at a summer camp, me and this other guy got put in charge of the fireworks display which was basically $500 worth of stuff the camp owner bought at Pedro’s South of the Border.

Everything worked well except the mortars. They were very difficult to aim, and prone to careening in wild directions and exloding at odd times (like after they landed on the ground)

Additionally sometimes the tube would just blow out and the mortar would just explope on the ground.

I don’t like those mortars.

Never had a problem with mortars myself.

My family buys $100 or so worth of fireworks every 4th, so I suppose I’m as qualified as most people (save professional pyrotechnics personnel, firefighters, etc.) to answer.

Basically, what everyone else already said.

For the mortars: Find a reasonably flat area on the ground, bare dirt or cement is what I’ve had the best experience with. I suppose sand would work pretty well too, as long as it’s stable. Make sure the area is flat, or preferably, slightly graded down towards the area you’re shooting into (the ocean?). That way, the shells will arc up and out, and if they decide not to explode until they’re 5 feet off the ground, they would be reasonably far away from you. If the mortar tube seems like it would fall over, maybe add some weight to the bottom (where there should be a wooden or plastic base, add the weight to the base, not inside the tube or anything) or prop it up, just take care to make sure if it DOES fall, it falls AWAY from you (and any houses, etc.).

For the cake: I’ve had less experience with these than anything else, so I’ll just give the standard: flat, stable surface, far away from you.

The others, I’m not sure what they are. If they’re mortars, follow above.

If they look like supersized bottle rockets: You can either just poke the stick a few inches into the ground, angling the rocket so it goes in the general direction of away from you, or you can use a small piece of PVC pipe. Half- or 1-inch diameter is usually best. Get yourself a two foot length of that, and jam it down into the ground so it’s angled the direction you want your rocket to go. If the wick is on the side of the rocket, drop the stick in and the rocket in as far as it will go. Leave the wick on the outside. If the wick is on the bottom, I’ve had limited success with sliding the stick end in, lighting the wick, dropping the whole thing down the tube (like a mortar), and running.

General safety tips:[ul]
[li]Always keep a bucket of water on hand.[/li][li]Light the fireworks WELL away from spectators. They don’t know what you’re lighting or when you’re lighting it or where it’s going to go or what it’s going to do.[/li][li]In the same vein, you don’t know when it’s going to go off or where it’s going to go or what it’s going to do. Even if you’ve read the manufacturer’s description a million times. So light the fuse, get away quickly, and then make sure you pay attention to what it does, so you can take evasive action if necessary.[/li][li]Make sure you leave the fireworks-waiting-to-be-fired well away from where you’re actually doing the lighting. You could leave them back near the spectators for instance. Never light anything when there are other unexploded fireworks within a five or ten foot (at least) radius.[/li][li]Only light one at a time. There’s enough of a chance one will malfunction.[/li][li]If you light one and wait five minutes and nothing happens, DO NOT try to light it again. Yes, even if you can still see a bit of fuse left. Approach it very carefully, douse it with water. Dispose (not by burning).[/li][/ul]

That’s about it, I guess. Above all, use common sense. These things can maim you for life or kill you if you’re not careful. Treat them accordingly.

[sub]Notice: I am not a professional fireworks operator (though I think that’d be one of the coolest jobs ever), nor am I a medical professional, fireman, policeman, or rocket scientist. The information contained in this post is based on personal experience only. Past performance does not guarantee future results. Your mileage may vary. Limit one (1) per customer.[/sub]

You might get some punk for lighting them so you don’t have to be so close.

Well, it’s certainly possible that you meant a beach on Lake Erie. I’m guessing not.