Any interest in an SDMB baseball fantasy league?

Opening Day is April 5.

Drafts take about, what, an hour and change. Longer if a bigger league, much shorter if a smaller league and/or people aren’t present (in which case the computer picks for them instantaneously when it’s their turn). If you’re in a 19-team league with really big rosters and a league full of smartasses who spend most of the time insulting each others’ picks, it takes like four hours.

For any of you who might have trouble visualizing how roto vs. fantasy points affects the experience, the real question is whether you want to make each owner responsible for earning each of the discrete categories or not. That sentence didn’t make any sense but it’s the best I can do; what I mean is that in a fantasy point setting, let’s say you have player A with the following stat line:
.308 avg, 32 HR, 110 RBI, 105 R, 22 SB

Good player, right? From an overall baseball perspective that’s a guy you really want to have. Overall production and no weakness.

Then say player B has:
.277, 8 HR, 55 RBI, 90 R, 108 SB

Impressive, but he’s only really good at one thing (which he’s phenomenal at), and he’s average to awful in the other categories.

And finally, you have player C, with this stat line:
.260, 65 HR, 140 RBI, 88 R, 0 SB

A very different player from B, but a similar conundrum.

Now consider roto vs. fantasy point scoring for each of the three. If you’re playing roto, Player A gives you a good mix in each category, so he’s valuable, but depending on the rest of your roster either Player B or Player C could maybe help you more, even though if you were starting from scratch you’d want A. If you’re in last place in the league in SBs or HRs, suddenly picking up either of the latter two seems really attractive. So that’s one effect of roto style; in the extreme, players who are one trick ponies have values that are inflated when compared to the real-world baseball person’s perspective (which is why fantasy veterans are lots more likely to be able to remind you of Scott Podsednik or Alex Sanchez’ careers). This, I think, objectively speaking, is a definite downside when considered this way, but it isn’t always so extreme and the more subtle differences between players’ contributions mirrors the calculus of a real-world player comparison, at least in theory.

The other side of the coin is this: when comparing Player A to Player C in a fantasy point league, the only thing that matters between the two of them is which aggregated more total points. So if the 30 HR and 30 RBI difference equals a bigger advantage for C than the extra steals, hits, runs, and whatever else mean for A, then C is categorically superior to A, and the owner with C wins. Ultimately, managing a team in this setting is just a matter of sitting back and watching the numbers climb, and if there’s a player available who has more total points than your guy, you probably go get him. If not, you don’t.

Like Munch says, it also makes trading a much different experience – rather than saying, hm, well, I can give up some Wins and Strikeouts because I’m pretty good there, and I really need to add some Home Runs, what you’re really doing is saying which of these two players represents a greater point total? and that’s the entire inquiry.

I vastly prefer roto because of the ambiguity of value. So, now that I’ve embarrassed us all by writing all of that, maybe you have a better idea which way you’d all like to go.

Do you still need another player? If so, I’m in.

I’m going to dump out. I don’t think I’ll have time. Thank you though.

Well I’m creating the league right now with a draft date of March 29 if you change your mind before then.

I sent PMs to everyone that said they might be interested about joining the league. And if anyone else is interested, the league is currently capped at 12 (with 11 people showing interest), but I can add 8 more teams if other people want to play too. The more the merrier and all that.

I’m in if there is still a spot. I’m also in the other league, fwiw.

I’m in. The draft is at 9 am my time though. I can participate up until around 930 or when I’ll have to leave for church. I don’t mind autodrating as we get towards the latter rounds and I’ll have plenty of players ranked.

Bump. The draft is less than two weeks away, so there’s still plenty of time to join.

The draft is set for tomorrow, right? Yahoo is telling me it is at 6:00 AM Mountain Standard Time. Is this right? Arizona doesn’t have Daylight Savings Time, so I just want to make sure it is this early in the am. I’ll be up for it if it is.

Yes it is.

What the hell.

I’m sure I’ll end up at the bottom of the list, but maybe it’ll get me watching more baseball, and caring about more than just the AL East.

Sign me up.

Hang out in the monthly baseball threads on here and **Asimovian **and I will get you hooked on the NL West!

OK, I’m going to put the coffee right next to the coffee maker and charge up the laptop.

Hanley Ramirez needs to be my first pick for the Miller Chill! :smiley:

I think there were only 3 of us at the live draft. I’m fairly happy with my team, although I wanted a better first round player than Ryan Braun.

If anyone is interested, I have several openings in a 5x5 league. E-mail me for the information. Draft is Tuesday at 8:30pm EDT.

Sorry I missed the draft, although I doubt that I could have done much better.

Made a couple of changes and for the most part pretty happy with the results. Even with our league’s small field, pickings are slim if you want depth.

I have never played in a roto before, but the idea seems viable enough.

For this league, do the bench player’s stats count or do they have to be in the line-up?

Bench players don’t count, they have to be in the lineup.

And I’m sorry I missed the draft too, I was up at 6 and then dozed off and when I woke up it was 9:45 and the draft was over.

This is my first year trying a FBB league. I actually woke up for the draft - but without experience only time will tell how I did. I’m very weak in certain spots (2B, 3B), and overstuffed in others (starting pitching, maybe OF). I’m also gambling that Joey Votto will be my answer at 1B, but if not, there’s still a lot of undrafted talent at that strong position.

What is usually the most important position? Is it 2B since there are so few statistically productive players at that spot?

I also apologize for adding to the autodrafters. The computer picked better than I thought it might, however, looking at the draft results, I would have put together a completely different team.

That said, this is an open solicitation for any and all trade offers. I don’t know if I just target people who hate trading or if my initial offers are really that bad (they really aren’t); so I’m asking you all to send me some trades. If you see someone on my team (Rye Bread & Mustard) that you might want, I’m willing to part with them.

Well, it depends. (“It depends” is also the first rule of all fantasy advice.) It always depends on your scoring system, then the depth of the league (number of teams or starting roster slots).

This year, 1B is surprisingly shallow, once you get out of the first tier. 2B has a history of being a tough spot to fill later in the draft, but there are a lot of options there this year - especially if guys like Mark Teahen and Ian Stewart get the starting jobs for the Royals and Rockies. Catcher is always shallow. It may have the biggest group of Tier 1 guys, but beyond that, they’re all interchangeable.