Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1)

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LU continues its journey into deeper mystical and psychological levels, gives us a comedy love triangle, and ends with a solid cage match. Pentagon Jr. breaks another arm, proclaiming Zer0 Fear, and once again invokes his unnamed master. King Cuerno drives to work time-lapse style. High Priest Dario Cueto does not make an appearance this time.

Catrina continues to manipulate both Fenix and Mil Muertes. How can the Man of a Thousand Deaths defeat the Man Who Rises From the Ashes of Death, she asks Fenix. She makes their feud more than personal. She wants them to wager their very souls. Muertes’s masks looks like armor plating.

Next, Ivelisse and Angelico have their rematch with Son of Havoc as referee. Angelico continues to attempt to seduce the fiery Ivelisse and goes easy on her, which only serves to incense her even more, especially when SoH prevents Angelico from pouring on the aggression. SoH decides to end it with a quick count on his beau to end the awkwardness of the situation, and he will no doubt catch hell for it.

Konnan’s promo progresses from him brooding in the rain to becoming Nibelung Alberich, forging something sinister from the fires. He creates a metal cane interlaced with beveled filaments, a weapon to seek vengeance. Does he mean to gouge Cage and shatter his bones in payback? This could get out of control.

Speaking of cages, cage matches have become kind of stupid throughout the years, in that somehow they don’t end in two seconds when one of the participants kicks the other in the nuts and bolts through the door. Mundo and Cuerno rarely consider escape and grind each others’ faces in the grating. There’s also a camera set up in one of the top corners, so we get to see close up of the two battling it out when they climb to that spot. Then, Mundo knocks Cuerno back down to the mat, perches atop the corner, and delivers a Shades-of-Jimmy-Snuka Corkscrew Plancha for the win. This move would have been repeated ad nauseum on WWE, but it’s just another match for LU.

LU doesn’t just have matches. They have battles.

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I laughed my ass off at Alex Riley’s promo. He’s way too whitebread to pull off the vengeful tough guy look. He’s got a fantastic build, different hairstyle and scruffy facial growth, but his teeth are perfectly straight and white and his diction is too froo-froo. He just doesn’t look street tough or like he’s had anything but a life of privilege. “It’s time to rage.” Oh, dear. The poor fellow is exacerbated. Perhaps some chamomile tea will calm him down. He spends about 75% of his match with CJ Parker as the victim. Even KO thinks his tattoo is ugly.

Good to see Enzo and Cass, but I’m not liking this schema. Enzo still looks like a chump, and Cass virtually wins the match by himself. It just means more fodder for a breakup. Cass will eventually realize Enzo’s an albatross, and Yoko Carmella’s influence will contribute to that. The two are gold together. Why break up a good thing?

“Alexa Bliss’s hair looks like it got soaked in toilet water.” On no she di’ent. Wonder if Carmella actually said it, or did Corey Graves come up with that?

Price Pretty gets revenge on Hideo Atami. Still no GTS. Wonder if Tyler had cosmetic surgery to make that eyebrow arch so acutely?

Next week we get to see an abridged version of what LawMonkey experienced last week. My decaying brain cells are working on forgetting the results he wrote up. :slight_smile:

So I didn’t catch NXT last night cuz I was desperately playing the Expedia/Travelocity game trying to find a time to get to Florida that DIDN’T cost me 350 goddamn dollars.

Feel free to spoil it though I don’t really care

I wish they’d have NXT shows advertised more than the 30-40 days in advance they seem to be giving us. Sure, they sell out quickly, but that’s because they deliberately set them up with the small audience. If I could be sure of getting tickets about 3 months in advance, I could arrange a suitable short vacation to go. I gotta take a harder look at this (he said, sitting at his computer wearing his Finn Balor t-shirt).

Wrestling Thread doperfest in Orlando to see an NXT taping!

Am I completely biased because in 4 months I’ll be living there? Of course! Is that going to stop me from encouraging it? No way!

I’m in. Affording it is not an issue, and I can find the PTO time.

Definitely put up notice for the next NXT taping. If I’m financially good by then, I want to go.

Looks like NXT is going to be doing more road shows soon - they’ve announced a show in the Bay Area on WrestleMania weekend, and they’re playing the god damn ECW Arena itself in May.

Can a full tour be coming before too long?

Completely selfish reasons aside…I don’t like this idea.

I don’t like the idea that people and/or Trips have to make NXT it’s own brand and keeping it separate from WWE. I love NXT and I love having a little something different to watch, but I watch NXT to see the Superstars grow and to anticipate their eventual arrival onto the big show. I think because the cast is so small that keeping them only in NXT will get us as an audience worn out on them.

My opinion is that NXT needs to hire MORE wrestlers, split them half with stars (Samoa Joe) and half with newbies (Baron Corbin, Bagels, etc.) and then graduate their super-vets and we can constantly see change.

Bring up/relegate stars all the damn time, change the rosters up, and keep things fresh. I don’t see this happening if NXT only stays as NXT. I also think keeping them on the road will separate the stars and the people who need the experience even more than they already are

I suppose the real problem is bringing in guys like KENTA, El Generico, Kevin Steen and Prince Devitt, then paying them Development wages for any length of time. If Vince doesn’t bring them up to the main roster, why would they stay for long?

Solution: Occasional tours, so they can make house show and merch money. Also helps the less experienced people hone their craft in front of a varying audience, instead of being taught to cater to the Full Sail crowd.

Honestly, from what I’ve heard, wrestling at the indie level pays shit, even the top-tier indie level that guys like Sami and Kevin and Kenta are coming from, and it’s even less in terms of take-home pay when you consider that they have no employer-covered healthcare and have to pay for their own transportation and lodging. I can’t recall where, but I’ve read that an NXT performer can expect to make $40,000 a year tops, which is less than I make working at a grocery store. (Is it any wonder that, after ECW folded, Shane Douglas took a job as night manager at Target?)

Agreed. The occasional NXT tour is best for business - there are obviously more people out there who want to see NXT live than can fit into the NXT Arena, and a tour now and then will both meet fan demand and get the new guys used to working different crowds in different cities. NXT is really also meant to develop Triple H himself as much as it’s meant to develop the wrestlers - Vince clearly wants Trips to take over when he dies and/or retires (and I’m not entirely sure death would stop him from showing up via Ouija board and telling Maggle what to shout into the mic), and running NXT as a touring promotion will help him prepare for what he’s going to need to do when the old man finally shuffles off.

Some thoughts are better left unsaid. You never know who might be reading and decide to incorporate into an angle.

I remember reading that the stars who come to NXT from the land of the indies are paid $45K/yr, but the ones who come in from the ground up get a little over half that. Those who work are truly in it as a labor of love. Eventually, a handful of these will become millionaires, but it’s always a matter of mass appeal.

The only Smackdown comment that I have is how mad I am at what they did with Mark Henry.

They had Reigns squash him after Henry’s promo, which I guess is the “Reigns is strong!” mindset, but they missed such a good opportunity.

They needed to have RR do the SPEAR! SPEAR! SPEAR! to Henry, and have Henry not even move. Then kick Roman’s ass, then have the commentary say “Oh man, if RR is having trouble with Mark Henry, how will he fare against the beast!” and incite drama.

Anything else happened I didn’t catch much of because I was doing stupid “jump through hoops” shit for a job

No one believes he can beat Lesnar anyway, so it wouldn’t help to have Mark Henry kick his ass.

Besides, Vince can’t masturbate to his chosen guy LOSING, can he?

Can we just talk about how wonderful it is every time they have an interview it’s an “exclusive interview” with the person?

As if the demand to tell RKO’s story is so high and omg he agreed to talk with Smackdown!

I laugh every time

You realize he’ll go to the papers if he has to, right?

Exclusive Interview - An event for which no one is allowed to participate unless they happen to be watching.

So, last night’s house show was pretty good. Key Arena was relatively packed - not a sellout, but i’d say 6,000 or so people in attendance, and they were loud and ready to have a good time. I picked up a Dean Ambrose anarchy shirt, but my seat five chairs down from the ramp was just too far away to slap any hands this time.

Erik Rowan beat Fandango in the opener. Not much of a match, but the crowd was hot for Rowan and he got in some nice power moves. The look of confusion on his face when Fandango tried to grind at him was priceless.

Up next Tony Chimel announces a tag match, and… Look, everybody! IT’S TYLER! Prince Pretty himself makes an entrance to a big pop, with his selfie-cam (no stick, tragically) playing on the arena big screens and the mini-titantron at the entrance. Bo Dallas, making his big return, comes out as his partner, and cuts a promo congratulating Seattle for bolieving in ourselves, and he and Tyler both do a thumbs-up victory lap. Who could possibly beat these two? LU-CHA! LU-CHA! LU-CHA! That’s who. Sin Cara got the pin with a frog splash after a great match. All four guys were over and there were some strong “NXT!” chants.

R-Truth vs. Luke Harper was up next. As much as Truth is just a comedy jobber on TV, at house show’s he’s almost like a black Hulk Hogan - he even “hulked up” to beat Harper after taking a lot of offense. Truth came out with the intercontinental title belt, but midwaay during the match Bad News Barrett ran out and stole it back.

There was a Twitter poll to decide what the Divas match should be - Summer Rae vs. Natayla, or Summer Rae and THE BOSS Sasha Banks vs. Natalya and Emma. The tag match won by about 95%. It wasn’t an NXT quality match, but it was better than any main roster Divas tag I’ve seen, and Emma even got her bubbles for her entrance. I tried to get a “Sasha’s ratchet!” chant going, but it didn’t catch on. Nattie, who was working babyface and had her pink and black Hart family gear on (no denim booty shorts) got the win with the sharpshooter.

End of the first half was Roman Reigns vs. Big Show. Roman’s reaction was better than some TV tapings, but there was definitely a lot of boos mixed in with the cheers. Big Show got more than enough heat to make up for it, though, so the crowd was definitely behind Roman. There were lots of boos in my section, but I think I must have been seated in Smark Central - there was one guy behind me heckling the ref every time he missed a dirty spot, and others calling out every time a guy sold too early or the punches clearfly weren’t connecting. Roman ate a choke-slam, but kicked out and landed a spear for the win. I noticed while Big Show was coming down the ramp that he isn’t really as tall as they make him out to be - I’m 6’0" and he couldn’t have been more than a few inches taller than me tops. A guy on the other side of the ramp had a sign with a giant pair of underwear attached to it and waved it right in Show’s face as he was doing his post-match walk of shame to the back, and Show quite visibly cracked up laughing.

After the intermission it was the Ascension vs. New Day. Konnor went right for the cheap heat, making fun of Seattle and our sports teams. Big E was in the corner for this match and cut a surprisingly charismatic promo of his own about how great Seattle is, which resulted in a loud Seahawks chant breaking out. (Side note: People in Seattle are crazy about the Seahawks to the point of cultishness. I never understood it since I’m from San Diego, and we all know there that rooting for the home team is an exercise in futility.) Anyway, another solid match, Xavier Woods pins Viktor for the win.

Up next is Dean Ambrose vs. Bad News Barrett with the IC title on the line. Could the Lunatic Fringe be the first man in 13 years to win that prestigious belt at a house show? (Spoilers: If you think that would actually happen, I’m afraid I’ve got some BAD NEWS.) On TV, WWE likes to constantly job the champs in non-title matches and then have them retain at the PPV, but at house shows it’s the opposite - the title is always on the line, but never changes hands - either the face retains clean, or the heel champ gets DQed. I guess it makes the match feel more significant to the kids in the crowd. But I digress - Barrett gets DQed after hitting Ambrose with the belt. After the match, Ambrose hits Barrett with Dirty Deeds and tries to steal the title, but then Luke Harper runs back out, attacks him, and steals it - only for R-Truth to sneak up from behind and steal it again, thus putting us right back where we started, and with a greater sense of internal continuity than Randy Orton’s feud with Rollins has had.

The main event is Daniel Bryan vs. Korporate Kane in a street fight, and the hometown crowd predictably goes apeshit before Bryan even emerges from the curtain. There isn’t a soul in the house not yes-ing. It’s a pretty brutal match - kendo sticks, chairs, the steps, and tables all come into play. The leg breaks off one of the tables before they can do the spot, so Bryan stares at it stroking his beard for a moment, then grabs the leg and uses that as a weapon. A second table gets brought in and Bryan gets choke-slammed through it, but kicks out and ultimately gives Kane a chair-assisted running knee for the win. He cuts a post-match promo about how last time he was in Key Arena was the 2013 Slammies, when the crowd hijacked the main event by refusing to stop chanting for Bryan, and he says that that moment changed his career. And so, he has only two words for the audience. (No, he says - he may have been trained by Shawn Michaels, but he wasn’t thinking of those two words.) He says “thank you” and promises that next time he comes to Seattle he’ll wrestle in blue and green.

Overall, great show. Most of the matches were ten minutes or longer and there weren’t really any duds. In a little while I’ll be driving down to Portland for the afternoon house show there, which I’m sure will probably have more or less the same card, but it’ll be interesting to see how differently it goes.

Thanks for the report, Smapti. Sounds like Ascension is about to vanish into obscurity.

I think DB is just biding his time and playing WWE. He’ll go along with the IC title scramble and make it epic, make RR sound like the Second Coming and gleefully show him where to stand in the spotlight where all the sharks are circling, and humbly lament that he failed in the Royal Rumble. In the meantime, audiences are going absolutely apeshit when he appears, and Vince won’t be able to isolate himself from success he didn’t generate himself.

A victim of Vince trying to make them more LOD like and have them brag about being better than all of the old teams stuck with the same gimmick. Then the stupidity of mocking them on their initial appearance. :smack:

Fact is, they’re just not big enough for Vince.

The only solution I see is for a third man, preferably a larger one, but if not, then a good talker, then playing by the old Freebird rules. Problem is that I don’t see anyone who would fit at the moment. God forbid they try to shoehorn Baron Corbin into that mess (and he needs another year or more of seasoning in NXT anyway).