And Trump’s just the man to do it!
Like when a wife “loves” an abusive husband?
No. I’m not talking about being victimized. I’m talking about treating others the way you would like to be treated, like a human.
Trump does love the poorly educated
No, you are. I am too.
Yes, it does make them anti-democracy. They apparently want a result that the majority apparently does not favor.
But it’s okay, because . . . what? Their side is the right one, and should prevail regardless of what the stupid voters think? Is that your argument?
That’s fine. But don’t try to dress the argument up as pro-representative-democracy.
There seems to be a tendency to conflate “democracy,” with “good.” This leads to the assumption that results produced by democracy are good, wise results. But there’s no guarantee of that.
Unfortunately this flummoxes you: you can’t come out and say you oppose representative democracy; you can’t endorse the results when it delivers results you don’t like. You’re stuck.
So you try to solve that with an appeal to emotion: my friends are committing suicide, so great is the evil that threatens our fair shores!
How does that fact mandate removing from the voters’ hands the right to select leaders they favor? Please be specific. And please share what alternate system to select leaders you feel we should adopt. Again, please be specific.
And the white supremecist. Don’t forget him. He is to show love to the one he hates.
And once again I ask how you would use “love” to solve the problems listed in that post. All you have proposed is to let the problems continue without opposition, which makes me ask which teams you are rooting for in each situation.
Yes he is. And how do you get him to do that?
People love when they are loved, and hate when they are hated.
He was talking about LGBTQ civil rights. Are you arguing that it’s “democratic” if the majority (or the majority of elected representatives) successfully strips civil rights from a minority? And “anti-democracy” if the minority advocates that this shouldn’t be done?
You don’t know how to love someone?
By treating them how you would like to be treated. Treat everyone you meet like a brother or sister. Treat everyone like you would treat a friend. Have no enemies. Give to those who are in need. Pretty basic stuff, really.
When Team A is playing touch football, while Team B is playing Australian Rules Football, all the love in the world isn’t going to keep Team A from being slaughtered. “If only everyone loved each other everything would be just fine” isn’t an answer to any question-It’s a Vacation Bible School bumper sticker.
Why, it’s turtles all the way down.
(Just as long as the nazi isn’t responsible for his own thoughts.)
I didn’t think you could(or would) actually apply your “solution” to any of the problems listed, but at least I gave you a chance.
Who’s slaughtering who here? I’m not saying “everything would be just fine”. I’m saying it’s ridiculous that everyone is cowering in fear thinking that some boogeyman is out to get them. If you think that you are being persecuted, then love your persecutor and win them over.
I, however, have never met a neo-Nazi, so I find all of the hopeless quivering a bit ridiculous.
I think that love is like the Doppler effect…if you just love the Republicans then, instead of rushing away from you very quickly, they will instead rush towards you, shifting from a red wave to a blue wave! Love is all you need…
I have met them, and laughing at them is as effective in dealing with them as laughing with them. They believe themselves to be of superior stock, and they don’t give a flying fuck about your love if you are not of their kind. They love your type of solution because it means you won’t get in their way.
I would call that bluff. They have to be called out of their group-think mentality, and the only way to do that is to display true humanity through love.
Bullshit. Love is infinitely more powerful than hate. Talk about being scared, love and empathy scares them to death.
That doesn’t make someone anti-democracy. I did not “favor” the result of the last presidential election. (As memory serves, neither did you.) That does not make me anti-democracy. It makes me someone who favored the losing side in a democratic contest. Trump and the Republican party will, without a doubt, continue to use hatred of gay and trans people as a political tool to drive more bigots to the polls. Expressing fear that this tactic might work, to the immediate harm of people we care about, is also not anti-democracy. At no point in this thread - or any other - have I expressed the desire to disenfranchise anyone. At no point in the post you responded to did I say that any of my friends - not even the one who tried to kill herself, and thank you for your sympathetic comments in that regard - have argued for preventing anyone from voting. In general, it is the position of the Democratic party - and one that I support entirely - that the right to vote should be as unencumbered as possible.
You, on the other hand, have argued consistently, for years, that people who are, in your view, too stupid or lazy to secure a voter ID should be barred from voting. You are currently arguing, in another thread, that people who have committed felonies should not be allowed to vote, because, in your words, “A felon shows not just indifference to the welfare of the nation but his outright hostility to it.”
So maybe drop the “brave defender of the principles of democracy,” shtick. Or, at least, make sure you’re facing a mirror next time you break it out. Because the only person in this thread it applies to is yourself.
This ranks right up there with “Bullies are just putting up a front, and if you confront them they will back down” as advice guaranteed to get your ass stomped. You have no idea whatsoever as to what you are talking about.