Not to beat a dead horse, but is anyone going to try to answer DSeid’s initial complaint? Because I think everything else is a side issue to the one that started the thread and as he is the OP, one would believe that might deserve some looking in to / an explanation. Just saying.
A note on the instigating factor here.
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In the thread in question (What if a prospective employer requires your SDMB log-in info? - In My Humble Opinion - Straight Dope Message Board) I clearly mis-read or misunderstood the point of the OP, and fucked up.
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This made my first post in said thread off-target and at a tangent to it.
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I felt that Senegoid was being overly snarky to me, and since his post contained nothing which addressed the OP or the topic it’s undeniable that his post was solely intended to poke at me.
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My second post was overly lengthy because I was explaining that although the economy sucks and the job market sucks there’s a reason why I could say that I had a luxury of not being in the position of being out of work and looking, so my answer had to be treated differently. At this time I had still not re-read the OP and I was dumbly unaware I was not really addressing it properly and explaining in a hamfisted manner.
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Then we play “Enter the DSeid” out of nowhere, despite the fact I in no way directly, indirectly, or implicitly addressed him, to post snark and make an accusation of threadshitting, somehow being ignorant that Dex has posted in the beginner’s guide: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=320298&highlight=threadshitting+report
If my post was off-base or wrong, it nonetheless was not “threadshitting” as defined, and DSeid violated Dex’s directive on this message board. And when he received a Mod note to dial it back, he continued to not understand this (his own post following). Based on DSeid’s snarky post I did go back to the OP and realized I had not addressed it properly, and that I was in the wrong there. I felt stupid but what could I do at that point but post an answer to Jenaroph later, who asked a question I could directly address, to try to add something substantive to the thread.
I did also respond in-kind to DSeid’s snark and reported his violation of Dex’s note. Then we had a Moderator decision… … …and here we are.
You know how much I love the idiotic hyperbole the left engages in around here?
Love it just as much, if not more, from you.
Jeeze. I know, I know, it’s the Pit, these things are an art form, etc etc.
But seriously? One of the worst human beings breathing? He can’t just be a poster you dislike? He can’t just be a guy with some wrong ideas? He has to be on a list that includes mass murders, pedophiles, and Bernie Madoff?
Look, trust me: Duke and I are not exactly sharing warm cuddles on the bear rug Saturday nights, but … worst humans breathing?
C’mon.
Well, you could have actually thrown an apology to the OP/readers/folks without jobs in there somewhere too ya know.
And as for being a victim of snark, IMO you deserved it. Didn’t read the OP to start. Failed to go back and read it a few more times. It was a couple sentence OP for Pete’s Sake, not some 3 page convolution of a hypothetical that required a spare afternoon to read and flowchart to understand. And you managed to get in some sneak bragging and be rather insensitive to others less fortunate than you as well.
And, if snarking is wrong, WTF did you snark back?
If that doesn’t deserve some snark, what does? I thought basic snark was a trademark of the SDMB as a way of telling people they needed to get their posting/thinking shit together. Yeah, it might not have been threadshitting, and DSeid might have been Junior modding, but neither of those things negate your major slip up there.
double post
Your body of work speaks for itself. As far as I am concerned, any thread in which you post should immediately be locked or deleted out of concern for innocents being exposed to the toxic levels of stupid. Your posts should have visible “stink lines” of idiocy radiating from them. You are the Galactus of dumb. If you, ever once, said anything that was accidentally right, you immediately retracted it. You are this board’s prolifically posting anal fistula. Children become catastrophically retarded just by having your shadow fall across theirs. If you left this very moment, there is such an immense mass of your accumulated stupid here that 4chan will look like a hangout for Nobel laureates in comparison for decades to come. In short, yes, you are dumb.
PM? Mail? Any one of maybe eight to ten people? I don’t know how many other ways I can say that asking a question would nipped this right in the bud years ago.
Going SEXUAL with him? WTFH? I said that OTHERS had made sexual slurs, almost all anonymous. Furthermore, I hope you aren’t implying this whole thing was just an “eye for and eye” situation you felt you needed to enter. That would make me even more unhappy.
I have more than 36,000 saved and active PMs. I have only 4 PMs from tygre saved, none of which give any hint whatsoever as to any problem on the board, or off. I cannot believe I would delete any complaint PM as we have a policy to keep a paper trail on these things. I need the original PM forwarded to see what the issue is and to verify that I actually received something and took no action as you put it. If it was to another staff member and they took no action and didn’t inform me, then that’s a different matter.
That last line reads like a subtle “but for all we know you’re lying.” Or are you saying you don’t know where your specific funds went to?
I can’t find anything in any search I can perform that says or implies such. I have 5 PMs from you, all of which were polite exchanges.
This is why I’m stunned to see you do this to me. I have also searched e-mails on three accounts, archived and online PMs, and posts, and I can find no indication of anything wrong. Several times Fierra and I together, or with other staff, did bring the two of you up as a topic, the question always being “does anyone have any idea why Duke and tygre left?” and the answer always boiling down to “we don’t know.” People just get tired and leave and we figured it was just that. My community is less than 1/10 its size at its peak, mostly due to folks leaving for newer boards, and the favorite “old timers” like you and tygre were sorely missed by many, for many years.
I’m 3,4,5 and 6!
Yes I can also crawl on my knees through broken glass to satisfy you…give me a break. I haven’t seen you posting demanding the same of others on here in other threads where they messed up, so let’s not get dramatic. As far as claiming I need to apologize to folks without jobs, that makes about as much sense as Romney claiming Obama needs to apologize to everyone who pays $5 a gallon for gas. Give me a fucking break.
No I didn’t.
You don’t understand the difference between instigating and response? Whatever you think of my post as being incorrect, who instigated the snark is absolutely clear in that thread.
There’s no “mights” about it. I posted a citation that pretty much says he was junior modding, as well as an official definition of threadshitting. You don’t have to like that, but unless you have a better cite you need to accept that.
Threads like this one are what keep me here.
Well, there went someone’s chance to be a class act.
Damn, now you are coming across as one of those arrogant types that even if they admit they were wrong, seem to take the very idea of even the most modest apology as an affront to their soul.
Well, I never had your e-mail address. And, as I said, I didn’t know my donation hadn’t gone to the upkeep of the board until now. Why would I have sent a PM about something I didn’t know?
My post was not clear; I meant to say what you just said. But I don’t understand how DSeid got dragged into that…he didn’t say those things.
Again, if you want to I will send you a PM about it. She is adamant that she did have a complaint. You will have to forgive me; she’s my wife, I’m inclined to believe her.
Most definitely the latter. Again, I would have loved to know that my donation went to a worthy cause. I might have given more if I’d only known!
I’m here, tygre’s here…if you’re upset with me that I didn’t contact you over a misunderstanding, why didn’t you or anyone else contact us when the shoe was on the other foot? I have to tell you, all this time I’ve assumed that we were unwanted. Nobody that I know–not you or anyone else–has ever asked me, “You’re not on the UnaBoard any more, what’s up with that?” Frankly I just assumed that we weren’t missed.
BTW not that it matters–as I know I have burned my bridges here irrevocably–it wasn’t in a PM. I don’t even know where the disagreement was or what it was about any more. But, just like you have told me with my misunderstanding, we probably could have worked it out at the time with a simple exchange of PMs. I’m sorry that I didn’t, and I’m sorry I didn’t speak up more. I don’t blame you for not accepting my apology–I know I screwed up here and in the past. If anyone else looks at this post and thinks, “Duke, you’re the worst person breathing,” so be it.
Bricker: Thank you.
My e-mail has been public on here and my board for 11 years. It also until a couple of years ago was in the “contact us” at the bottom header of every single page.
You’re going to have to take me at my word when I say that since Day 1 I never wanted to be someone who was needy and clingy and whinged about “why don’t you ever come to my plaaaaaace?” I don’t mail people, almost all the time, absolutely true, because I don’t want to sound like I’m begging them to come back to my board. Even when my own Mods drop off the face of the earth I might not mail them for a month or longer, because I never wanted to put pressure on them for doing a job for free. I can’t say anything other than I’m truly sorry I never asked, I just didn’t even want to have the appearance of being an insecure admin looking for more posts. It can be very difficult to separate acting as an admin and acting as a person.
It’s likely a moot point but if there was/were a complaint(s) which I received and I treated it callously, dismissively, or rudely, or did not take it seriously, then I would really like to see them. I won’t imply people are being untruthful but it has been a lot of years and it may be possible back in the day something was intended to be communicated to me and just wasn’t, due to accident or incident.
Edited. Typos.
That’s one way to spin it. I guess.
When is the next meeting of the Una Persecution Club? I imagine you guys have to plot out the next quarter.
Hey, I said “just about” . . .
Look, really I just meant he’s one of the worst posters on the SDMB. I took a left at the exaggeration station on the way to hitting submit–meh, it happens. Other people have called me a million naughty words that can’t possibly be supported by my actual views, so whatever whatever.
Tweet me the results.
Rand Rover, I appreciate your support here and elsewhere, and I didn’t want to get tied up in side issues as this is another Sunday where I’m working all day, but you’re being unfair to Duke.
Duke is a highly intelligent and nice guy who I knew for a very long time, and from what I recall in his private life he was definitely a one of the good ones. When he and his wife were married - they met on my board - I so much wanted to be there, as they were two of my favorite people and joining their lives together would have been an event to cherish, but personal issues mandated I not, like always.
Duke and I have having a serious problem here over a profound misunderstanding, and I don’t know what your exchanges with him on this message board have been like, but despite all that he is highly undeserving of your categorization of as him. I know Bricker said it first, but I wanted to provide another data point.
Holy shit, I have a lot to look down on in this thread:
**Duke **- I’ve never noticed you on these boards before, but you come off as a whiny little pussy. You’re whining because you feel like some check you mailed to someone with no strings attached wasn’t sent under the exact circumstances you erroneously believed it was. You’ve then acted like some sort of person who has committed some monstrous offense when you were called out by the person that was the target of your screed, saying things like “oh I deserve to be banned for my horrific behavior.” That’s retarded.
**Una Persson **- I mostly favor your side in this, but think it’s ridiculous you’ve shown so much emotion and caring about what people on the internet think or say about you. Who gives a shit that some bitch like Duke posts a whiny post?
**billfish678 **- I’m sorry no, people with money and jobs have no obligation to walk on eggshells just because a bunch of people are out of work and we have to be afraid of offending them. That’s like saying I should avoid needlessly walking or using my arms around a quadriplegic.
This reminds me of an incident years ago when I was eating lunch with some people (pizza) and I brought up a story about how my grandmother never ate pizza until she was 80+ years old and when she did it was with a knife and fork because she was unaware of how it was normally eaten. I then brought up I was annoyed when people eat pizza with a fork since it’s traditionally hand food. Incidentally a guy I knew who was eating with us was nearly quadriplegic (paralyzed from the “shoulders down” and in his arms he only had movement of his triceps and two fingers on each hand, so not full quadriplegia but close) and he kind of bitchily brought up “well it’s a little hard when you have only two fingers on each hand to use.” That’s a bullshit thing for him to bitch about and I was under no obligation to avoid certain topics of discussion just because he might get mad about it.
I think I ended up saying “well you have an excuse, that’s not what I’m talking about.” What I wanted to say was “maybe next time you’ll be more careful when swerving between traffic on the interstate on a motorcycle.”