Anyone else notice the arrogance among engineers

Don’t worry yourself, he isn’t a real scientist, you can’t expect him to know any correct notation. :wink:
My commiserations for you having to slum it doing an EE degree, I do hope they aren’t making you do actual practical experiments, how demeaning for someone who once did physics.

You didn’t need the footnote. I recognized physicist as soon as you wrote V = IR. I worked for several years with a physicist who was one of the sharpest guys I’ve ever worked with, but the dumbass still didn’t know enough to write E = IR.

“We all dream of genies at our beck and call.
Power, access and control, wishing for it all.
Intellect means diddly-squat for hardcore sofware users.
A chip can check Kasporov, genius is for losers.”

  • Loudon Wainwright III

It’s just one of those things. Physicists mix the units of electrical potential with electrical potential. I mean if you’re going to write the equation using the units, go all the way with it.

V=AΩ

Consistency, please. :wink:

*::: sigh :: I had to read this whole thread to see if anyone was going to call you on this slap at our profession. *

This will not do. If you don’t have PIC hours in excess of mine, you may not even land on the same airport until I have left the building.

Young scamps like you are the curse of the real and true pilots.

Consider yourself called down and dressed down and pulled up and halted in your incorrect labeling of what arrogance is. Pilots are the salt of the earth, the first ones to the accident site and are willing to fly the A¹ model while engineers will not even get in the craft they design.

Pilots are like Bumble Bees¹, we pee on the pillar of science and engineering…

Only someone as humble as a pilot will refrain from killing an engineer who walks up after the test flight he refused to go on and says, “You can’t do that, it is impossible.”

Pilots are humble saints who perform miracles everyday.

There is no footnote that can cure an inability to understand humor, sarcasm, or tongue in cheek style.

¹ So that catsix will be able to understand at least a small part of my post.º

º Italics are used as for emphasis. :cool:

Curse practicality. Yeah, that EE stuff is actually useful in the real world, but watching superfluid helium do crazy higgledypiggledy things was more spiritually satisfying than wiring up a blinky light on a breadboard.

Oh boo hoo. The ickle engineers can’t handle the fact that a letter might mean different things in different contexts. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve solved problems where “m” was in the same equations as both mass and an integer index. And nevermind the fact that E is both electric field and energy, or that V is volume as well as electric potential. If you engineers can’t hack the math, then just stick to your circuit boards.

That’s just schoolboy EE, real EEs use i and j notation along with eV and the true definition of capacitance.

Not a whole ton of professions that have their own WEEK dedicated to them

http://www.eweek.org/

Granted, no body celebrates it but we did do a Pi run on base today.

I’m an EE and I’m smart. I did deliver pizzas and scrub dishes as a youth though.

I’ll be patiently waiting for you to present a proof of this theorem. :wink:

About computer engineers: hell yeah they’re real engineers! I’m not one, but a friend of mine is. For his senior project he built an MP3 player from the board up. The company he works for now makes custom components for lots of other companies. One time when I went to his house he was working from home on a project. It was a prototype PDA-type device with a touchscreen and wires sticking out all over the damn place. It was at the point where he could draw different colored lines on the screen and upload them to his computer. For all that, he’s one of the nicest, most laid back people I know.

Ahh, you see, if I was a mathmatician I would find a way to reduce it to a problem previously solved, perhaps by comparison to philosophy majors. Since I am an engineer, its perfectly acceptable to refer to common standards and practices, which confirm my view. :stuck_out_tongue:

Nah, I just hand the issue to a tech, and then claim credit for the results.

[joke] Last yeer I cud not spel Enjanier, and now I are one! [/joke]

[joke] How can you tell when an Engineer is extroverted? He looks at your shoes while he’s talking to you! [/joke]

OK, so I’m an Engineer. Am I arrogant? Sometimes.

But arrogance is not a prerequisite for becoming an engineer, nor is it the result of that process. I know lots and lots of arrogant non-engineers - doctors, lawyers, mathematicians, plumbers, carpenters, pizza delivery guys.

The OP exemplifies an all-too-common error in logic:
John is arrogant.
John is an engineer.
Therefore, all engineers are arrogant.

And BTW, this thread has given me more belly-laughs than I’ve had in a while. So, while all engineers are not arrogant, some engineers are damn funny! :slight_smile:

While I, a lowly liberal arts major, would simply go out and buy an MP3 player and a PDA, and spend the balance of my time actually using them.

You just don’t get it.

Somebody had to build the first prototypes, and tinker with the new versions, and test them, etc. Electronics toys don’t invent themselves, you know.

Art student says: “I’m the one who’s been nailing your wife while you play overtime with F=ma.”
True story.

Let Zombie engineers sleep or rest or whatever.

Indian(Engineer)

Meh, don’t bore us with your petty accomplishments.

Bryan Ekers, B. Eng., B Comm., CD(2)