Anyone following the Casey Anthony trial?

Does anyone know what the 6 felonies Casey was convicted of were for?

I honestly didn’t think things could look much worse for her, but with prior felonies, trying to accuse her father and brother of raping her, and the non-stop stream of ridiculous, insulting-to-common-sense lies, I am guessing that it won’t be a tough sell for a Righteous, God Fearing Florida jury to vote to have her put down. If she somehow doesn’t get the needle, it will certainly be life without parole

Check fraud – she emptied a friend’s bank account, used her ATM card and forged checks. I don’t know when she did this – sometime after Caylee’s death.

This case is one where I really question the death penalty. The evidence against Casey is all circumstantial. They don’t have a cause of death and there’s nothing concrete to point to Casey as Caylee’s killer. Sure, her car smelled like death and she didn’t report Caylee missing and she lied her socks off, but the prosecution doesn’t have anything else.

It could have been a boyfriend, a friend, a babysitter, or accidental. I think even though the jury believes Casey did it, they’re less likely to find her guilty of first degree murder, because of the possibility of the death penalty. They can’t be sure, so they might acquit.

If there’s a jury instruction allowing them to find her guilty of a lesser charge, that might be what the jury will be more comfortable with. So instead of life in prison w/o parole, she might do 10-15 years.

Watching this trial on CNN makes me physically ill and feel the need to vomit. That face- the smugness, the complete lack of anything like compassion, the low grade sociopathic evil radiating from those eyes, the clear sense of superiority that is based on absolutely nothing tangible, the stupidity dipped in narcissism of a person convinced they are beyond any kind of justice be it karma or manmade… it’s horrifying and viscerally sickening. But luckily after a while Nancy shut up and put on the Casey Anthony footage.

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I’m fascinated at how little the witness are allowed to say on the stand.

For example, Lee Anthony’s original questioning is on youtube. Today, they barely let the guy speak in court. Seemed like every other question was challenged or required a sidebar with the judge. It’s a shame because Lee probably knows Casey a lot better then her parents. There’s some great info in his original statement.

I’ve found police interviews for all Casey’s friends on youtube. Amy Huizenga is really good. She’s the one that loaned her car to Casey and got her checkbook stolen from that car. If the jury hears about those felony check convictions, Casey’s hopes for a defense will be over.

I’m afraid the publicity of the trial will cause a mistrial in the event of a guilty verdict. EVERYBODY in the jury pool, regardless of how much they were screened, had to have a notion of her guilt. (I don’t think anybody really believes she’s innocent.)

Correct me if I’m wrong (like you ever need to say that here), but sociopaths (or other diagnoses characterized by remorseless and selfishness) are not considered insane, legally or otherwise, are they?

I like how she tried to cover up her partying by saying she was looking at places the “nanny” might have taken her daughter… completely forgetting that you don’t find a lot of toddlers at “Hot Body” contests!

So how then does one accidentally get the smell of a dead body into the trunk of one’s car? I know Occam’s Razor isn’t a legal principle but let’s give it a try here… what works better? That Casey killed her own daughter and put her in the trunk or…
That Casey’s boyfriend/nanny/etc did it, borrowed Casey’s car, drove it around long enough for the daughter’s body to decompose, gave the car back and somehow Casey didn’t notice and/or decided she was better off blaming a person who doesn’t exist…?
Circumstantial evidence is better than eyewitness testimony anyhow. Especially considering that there are no eyewitnesses to the murder.

I read that the parents aired her car out. How did they not get arrested for obstruction of justice for doing this? I know a police dog checked the car but was this before or after they broke out the Febreze? Personally, if I found a car that smelled like a decomposing body I’d want every cop in the area sticking his nose in it to confirm. I realize the parents probably weren’t pursuing the idea of putting their daughter in jail but still… there are well established penalties for tampering with evidence in a murder case.

On the upside, she did get a lead on the one armed man who killed Nicole Simpson.

To which add that during the investigation she’s a proven and not even very good liar. There’s no disputing that she lied repeatedly to law enforcement officials and to her family about her job, about where she was staying, about the nanny’s name and address, about who her friends were, etc… If the swimming pool story were 100% true I doubt any jury would believe her as she’s the proven that lying means jackshit to her. If she were to grab a letter opener and carve a swastika into her forehead while yelling “Hail Satan!” at the jury she might could have slightly less credibility than she does now.

And don’t forget the searches on Casey’s computer for chloroform, as well as the item found near the remains with traces of chloroform in them (a bottle I believe - hasn’t come out yet in testimony), as well as the duct tape with the little heart covering the child’s mouth. There are only two possible explanations for the child’s death. The prosecutions version or the defense version. Somehow, I don’t see the chloroform and the duct tape as consistent with an accidental drowning the defense claims.

Finally!! Cops are grilling Casey. They’ve checked her story and it’s all a lie.

They are playing the recording at Universal right now.

Can’t wait until Zany the nanny testifies. (there really is a Zany, but she never meet Casey).

(Politically incorrect response) Casey is hot. Otherwise i have no interest at all in the trial.

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I assume you mean it won’t be entered into evidence. Surely his opening statement was presented to the jury.

And when the CNN talking head repeated that, she spelled out “bitch.” And they bleeped it! And pixilated her mouth! And down the rabbit hole we go.

I agree that everything points to Casey (and I believe she did it), but it’s still all circumstantial evidence, as I understand “circumstantial”. There are no witnesses, no DNA, no fingerprints.

I think the strongest evidence the prosecution has is the bad smell in the trunk of her car, the research on making chloroform, and her behavior while Caylee was “missing”, but that’s all circumstantial.

She had no real motive, not in the sense that Diane Downs and Susan Smith had motives – getting rid of their kids because their boyfriends didn’t want them. Casey was being hassled by her parents for partying – big whoop. That’s not a motive for murder. There’s no evidence that Casey mistreated Caylee, no signs of abuse, etc.

I’m not arguing that she’s not responsible, just that the jury might have a hard time finding her guilty in a death penalty case without some direct evidence that it was premeditated murder rather than an accidental overdose of chloroform.

It wouldn’t surprise me if she gets off.

I don’t know about “otherwise,” but they are entries in the DSM-IV.

Legally, of course, they are not defenses against criminal liability. A person avoids criminal liability through insanity by one of two ways, in general: (1) if by reason of mental disease or defect, he did not understand the nature, character and consequences of his act, or he was unable to distinguish right from wrong (derived from the M’Naghten Rule); or (2) because of mental disease or defect had an irresistable impulse to commit the act (the “Policeman at the Elbow”) test.)

I’ve wondered if she’ll be committed to a mental facility instead of prison.

Listening to this interview at Universal. Casey is extremely delusional. She had invented an entire world of non-existent employers, friends, nanny etc. She had been living in that fantasy world for years.

The parents must have known Casey needed professional help. It’s a shame they didn’t get custody of Caylee before it was too late.

DNA and fingerprint evidence are both circumstantial.

Direct evidence is evidence that directly shows the accused committed the crime.

Circumstantial evidence is evidence of circumstances that make it likely the accused committed the crime.

“I saw the accused leaving the bank, with a gun in one hand and a moneybag in the other, while the alarm was going off,” is circumstantial evidence of armed robbery. It’s strong evidence, yes, but circumstantial.

“I saw the accused walk up to the teller, point the gun, demand money, then take the moneybag and leave the bank,” is direct evidence.

Let’s say you made a beautiful chocolate layer cake. You put it on the kitchen counter and leave for 15 minutes.

You come back, and the cake is a wreck, with several sloppy handfuls missing. A chair has been dragged next next to the counter. You follow the trail of frosting and crumbs, which leads into the bedroom of your three-year-old child, who is sitting there with yummy frosting on his face.

All of that evidence is circumstantial. Is there any doubt in your mind that your kid helped himself to some cake?

Thanks for the clarifications. :slight_smile:

I just worry that the jury will have problems convicting her of first degree murder without direct evidence.