So, prior to starting with this system, had you tried doing 3 12-minute cardio sessions a day, with handweights? If so, what results did you see from that workout, and how do those results differ from your current workout, which is done whilst vibrating?
Wow. You sound like one angry beaver. And you are not speaking truthfully here.
One can go to the Zaaz website and see that they NEVER claim FDA Approval. They say it is FDA-LISTED. BIG DIFFERENCE. And the link below is on their FAQ page where the question posed is about whether it is FDA APPROVED.
http://zaazstudios.com/equipment-faq/
if you intend to smear a company, at least have your facts right. Otherwise you appear like you just might be a disgruntled employee.
I love my ZAAZ. I’ve had excellent results in the month I’ve been using it.
However, there remains no data to show that it works in any way shape or form. It’s a scam until shown otherwise, and anonymous tributes on a message board aren’t data.
They probably changed their website - it certainly appears they used to claim this:
http://fremontchiropracticcare.com/whole-body-vibration/
(second link appears to be a former copy of their FAQ section)
Still has language saying they are “FDA approved”
http://zaazstudios.com/faq/i-have-seen-other-wbv-machines-that-are-cheaper-whats-the-difference/
anonymous tributes from someone who has just registered
Work your core, huh?:dubious:
Ten minutes = 1 hr in the gym. That’s a really vague statement if you think about it. Gillian Michale’s 1 hour in the gym is probably a lot of cardio and functional training. Where as a football linebacker’s 1 hour is probably power lifting. So who’s hour are we talking about here? Neither. Vibration training is its own classification. It doesn’t get your heart rate up enough to be considered true cardio and it doesn’t generate enough muscle growing force to pack on size like powerlifting.
Having sold machines to anyone from stroke sufferers to Pro-Athlete and everyone in between, I can tell you that the effects of vibration training are different for everyone. The fact is for some they can really help offer a gym style work out. NOTICE: I did not state that its an hour in the gym rather that it can offer up a gym style workout. What I mean by this is that you are expected to perform various exercises on these machines such as dips, push-ups, lunges, squats, planks, shoulder press etc. All of those exercise are intensified by the machine and intended to mimmick the muscle activations caused by gym exercises.
For athletes this is a compliment and another tool used for training, bloodflow and flexibility. For the unconditioned general user, it can replace some forms of exercise… but not all.
Anyone else completely disregard any testimonials from people with Join Date: Dec 2012?
Translation - There’s no evidence that it does anything, and there’s no proposed mechanism for how it works, but as far as we can tell the only documented effect is that your wallet gets noticeably lighter.
Info here
and here
There appears to potentially be some benefits if exercise is performed while WBV is applied.
Am I the only one who’s first thought was that this thread would be about some grand, new orgasm technique?
The study effectively shows that 5 minutes of 3 simple standing exercises on a vibration machines was muscularly equivalent to about 5 minutes on a stationary bike pedaling at about 65-85% max heart rate. There is research out there that can show some efficacy of vibration training. I am not saying that its a magic pill, I am just saying that it has benefit and is a tool like any other in a gym to assist in human performance and rehabilititaion.
IF you are a stubborn gym rat and refusing to try it. You are missing out. At the very least you would find it to really warm up your muscles and prepare you for an explosive work out. Have you tried it? iI so what machine, describe your work out? Is it possible that you may have needed better instruction on how to use it? Please let me know.
That is not in any way, shape, or form what the study says. The study was comparing the two as warm ups for a knee extension exercise. There was no control group showing what someone who did no warm up would do. Finding there was no statistical difference (which is not the same as saying they were the same) of a cardio warm up - to standing on a magic box - on strength training is not surprising at all.
There is no evidence whatsoever that these devices do what people care about - which is losing weight or getting fit.
Trying to find stuff that makes it seem scientific doesn’t make it scientific. Ketchup kills HIV in a test tube - that doesn’t mean it’s going to cure someone of AIDS.
I have no need to, my warmup routine works just fine. I’m not looking for a fix to a problem that doesn’t exist.
My suggestion is that you try something before you develop pure conviction that it doesn’t work. There is a reason that nearly every pro sports team in the country uses this technology( Not Zaaz but higher end machines) as part of their training regimens. The problem with the industry is that a lot of companies selling to consumers claim that its “the only exercise machine that you need”. I don’t support such a global statement rather I am saying that its a part of a whole exercise routine.
Try the machine for a warm up to to stretch you out and get blood moving. You may find it to be a faster way to get ready for an explosive work out. Afterwards try using it for a few massage positions. You may then find that it helps reduce soreness from your workouts.
I have sold machines to top end personal trainers, professional athlete training facilities and Olympic sports teams. They called me not the other way around. I use it, they use it and I get nothing but positive feedback.
Back to the origional argument: Don’t let companies like Zazz fast talk you in the mall to convince you that this is the cure for all of your health problems. Do know that it does have specific benifits if used properly. And know that users will come in all shapes and sizes. Gym rats probably won’t use this the same way an obese person or a untrained person is going to use it. Diet and exercise are the best ways to lose weight. Using WBV as part of your exercise regimen will help but its not the only tool you need. Be realistic about your weightloss goals and know that there is no magic pill. You are only as good as your commitment to push yourself to use the machines, change up your work outs regularly and stick to a healthy work out.
Other than in bed, when would one desire one’s workout to be “explosive”?:dubious:
A conviction that there is no evidence that something works is not the same as a conviction that it doesn’t work, and professional sports personnel are remarkably bad at statistical analysis.
Kayaker- Be an adult about this. For athletes from nearly any background being “explosive” reffers to rapid response times to get the jump on your competitors. For Football players its exploding from your stance at the snap. For swimers and track runners its exploding off the blocks, for basketball players its exploding of the ground for a jumpball. For baseball players its an explosive swing to hit a fastball…etc etc etc. For gymgoers and explosive workout is one where they are pumped and ready to train hard. Effective workouts are all about intensity. From high intensity training like HITT to, powerlifting or even cardio training, your pre-work out warm-ups and streches are crucial to your output.
Hence the reason why its used througout sports. http://newsroom.powerplate.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/EB27934-nfl_mezz_1280_1024.jpg
If this technology was useless why would they have so many machines in between each power rack and why would they have thier high salaried athletes incororate it into their facility?
Do you know something that the four atheltic trainers, and four doctors that sit on the Broncos Athletic staff don’t?
Open a thread about some woo with an easily searchable name, and it becomes the gift that keeps on giving.
I think we’ve heard enough from the shills, and I have had the information that I requested. so I’m going to ask the mods to close this thread.
Roddy