I don’t get it.
You know, I always forget how tone comes across (or doesn’t) in writing. My post to you was meant to sound sorta lovingly sarcastic - I’d speak that way to a friend. Reading it over, it sounds a little meaner than I intended. My apologies.
Just trying to fit my earlier comment into the discussion regarding mr. thornhill.
‘Scrapheap’ does not refer to ‘homelessness’, a word or indeed notion I haven’t used. I was referring to the situation referred to in another thread by what I took to be gay posters whereby young(ish) men are chosen as sex partners by other, presumably older men, and are rejected in favour of other young men after a short time. The writer referred to the psychological effects of such experiences, and it was to that psychological damage that I was referring in ‘scrapheap’.
I’m not aware that the same kind of thing happens among straight men, but if it does (perhaps in North America), I’d be interested to hear of it. Reagarding Asian vaginas, I cannot claim to be an expert, but I have experience of at least one, out of which (barring the fact that she had a caesarean) my daughter would have emerged into this world.
Let me help you out, since your reading comprehension seems to have taken an unaccustomed and unaccountable dip.
The young jedi is saying that I’m a bigger idiot than D.S. and that my column is not even up to the standards generally held to be applicable to tripe.
At least, that’s what I hope he’s saying. If he is using ‘column’ in its slang sense, then I take umbrage. My column stands up pretty well against the opposition.
You’re kidding, right? You’ve never heard of men divorcing their wives to marry much younger women? Jesus, man, they even made a movie about it.
By ‘the same kind of thing’, I was referring to the straight equivalent of a pool of young gay men being available to serve older, generally wealthier men. I guess prostitution isn’t quite the thing, as this is a business, a ‘profession’, typically with strong support structures. Straight divorce is the equivalent of gay divorce.
Umm. The term “escort” can be applied to men and women. Older straight (single or coupled) men have often used younger women for purposes ranging from professional needs (impressing the boss at parties, looking good in front of clients, etc.) to the more personal items. As many, if not more, young women have sugar daddies than young men. Indeed, I even know a young lesbian who in the past has used a young man for money…
Anecdotally, every queer man I know in a young (18-25) crowd is dating someone within five years of age from themselves.
In that case, I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Never heard of anything like it.
I mentioned homelessness, which you chalked up to an imaginary caste system that the gays use to - well, apparently to keep ourselves down. I’m not sure when ‘scrapheaps’ came into discussion.
You should ask matt_mcl before you generalize (again); he has some insights into this. I couldn’t begin to guess how common it is, but it’s definitely something that happens. I’m not altogether convinced that older teenagers can’t possibly consent to sex, even if that tends to be illegal in the U.S. at least. You seem to have the idea that these older-younger relationships are necessarily tawdry; certainly one must not forget the possibility of exploitation in circumstances like that, and I don’t mean to minimize it. However, these relationships are also often described in very loving terms, in some cases as sort of an “initiation” of previously lonely and unhappy gay youths into the gay community - in some cases it’s their first real contact with other queers.
I’m not sure whether that’s still a common situation - gay teenagers being as isolated as they once were - and I couldn’t possibly cite numbers here (I’m not aware of any research into it.) One must first figure out how often said relationships occur in the first place - I never had one, and no one I know personally has, to my knowledge - but they may well be routine outside my own little circle. Then you have to figure out how many of those relationships are the sad affairs you describe, and how many are simply two people having a relationship despite differences in age.
Straight men very frequently bed and/or marry much younger women; said men are termed ‘sugar-daddies’ and said women are ‘golddiggers’ or ‘trophy wives’ - those are at least the terms that come quickest to my mind.
Methinks I smell a bit of snark, roger dear. At any rate, no worries, as I got it as soon as Skywatcher replied.
I hope you realize that I’m not the only person here critical of your views, then - and please don’t think my problem with what you’ve been saying is because of your views on gay people in general; I am quite willing to peacefully coexist with folks who believe my sex life is sinful - in fact, I have a number of friends who believe the same thing. I think you’ve been describing a very incorrect view of queer ‘culture’, one that’s based on ideas that are unfair and untrue. I really hope you can start to recognize that these inferences you seem to make about gay people are not accurate.
After all, while I can easily handle folks who have religious objections to man-on-man action, it’s much harder to stomach the sorts of people who make up improbable fantasies about depraved gay culture. Compare, for example, the beliefs spread about Christians during their early history, or the profoundly bizarre beliefs many European Christians held regarding Jews during the Middle Ages (the drinking of blood, and so forth.) It’s one thing to respectfully think my behavior is sinful, but it’s quite another to demonize me. One of those things is compatible with membership in civil society, but the other simply isn’t.
Again, where did you get the idea that this exists? If you’re talking about escort services that are formally organized, I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that they exist in the gay world although I’ve heard much more about straight escort services - among gays and straights both I think this is probably much less common than the less genteel forms of harlotry. (I would have said ‘prostitution’ if ‘harlotry’ weren’t a much more fun word.) If you honestly think that there are organizations of professional boytoys, well, I’ve never heard of them.
Should I feel miffed that I haven’t been recruited? 
Better late than never, Cally, better late than never…
Were it not for the fact that I fear I will be accused of ageism, I’d say that it might have something to do with your, em, maturity.
Better late than never, Cally, better late than never…
Were it not for the fact that I fear I will be accused of ageism, I’d say that it might have something to do with your, em, maturity.
At 21 I think I’m hardly a decrepit old man . . .
Wah! Young enough to be my…
Oh yikes! That Thanksgiving Dinner back in '82, when I met “Mrs Robinson”…
Seriously, you’re a good sport and a very smart bloke. Go out there and strut your stuff.