Anyone here still watch The Boondocks?

Picked up Season 2, Disk 1 from Blockbuster Video (a $1.99 special, thought it might be entertaining). Remembered seeing maybe 3 or 4 episodes on cable beforehand.

My thoughts:

Until you see the episodes uncensored, uncut, and undoctored, totally raw (and that’s definitely an appropriate word for this series), you have no idea just how much foul (and questionable) language there is. It flies at you almost nonstop; Huey is the only one who shows any degree of restraint. The only characters who refrain completely are the DuBois family, and I’m almost certain that this was intentional. (Strangely enough, Tom has some of the funniest lines in the show precisely because of his self-censorship. Guess Matt and Mike Chapman knew what they were doing.) The effect on me? My head felt heavy, and at the end I got mild nausea. It’s like being slammed by a big wave at the beach. The first time, it’s shocking. After a few times, it’s no big deal. Then, after the 80th wave or so, you have a dull ache all over and just wish it would stop. At any rate, this is definitely not an easy show to watch 5 episodes back-to-back for me.

On top of that, the level of vitrol was just astounding. There’s absolutely no such thing as “annoyed” or “mildly upset”. It’s always white-hot, raging, and colorful, and it only ever takes a few seconds to reach that state (if that). These are the kind of people you’d expect to see in anger management counsling at least and a straitjacket and padded cell at most. Sadness is another emotion that’s never the least bit subtle, although that’s mostly a Jasmine thing. The weird thing is that this is supposed to be a quiet gentrified community, and only the DuBoises and Huey (and sometimes Riley) are the only ones not regularly “acting a fool”, as Ludacris eloquenty put it.

The violence. Did I mention the violence? And not just cheesy stuff like Huey and the token lunatic’s chop-socky duel. There’s some serious hurt happening in nearly every episode (with plenty of blood), and some of it gets downright nasty. In particular, I’m amazed Tom is still alive. That poor guy’s taken more abuse than Strong Sad*.

This show reeks of hardcore, down and dirty hip-hop culture. Like emotions, it’s always cranked to 11, with the underdressed, er, dancers, strong alcohol, bling, crankin’ stereos, and anything else big and ostentatious. The language, even the non-swears, is ghetto, constant, relentless. I’ve never heard anyone other than the Very Special 4 and the occasional guest star say one sentence in anything remotely resembling clear English. (There’s one character in the “Thugnificent” story that’s actually pretty funny in this regard.) Frankly, I think most of these people would be shocked if they learned about M.C. Hammer’s career. “Waitaminit, waitaminit, he did poppy hip-hop? With no swearing whatsoever? Not even ‘damn’? And he became a runaway mainstream success story? And he never got into a fight or dissed a rival on an album or put lots of skanks in his videos or nuthin’? And when it was over, he became a preacher???

Aaaaand…there’s nudity. Occasional, but it’s there. Including at least two penis shots that I know of, something too extreme for even South Park. I was surprised, to say the least.

In all, it’s a very radical departure from the original comic strip. Swear words were only occasional (I think Huey was more pottymouthed than Riley) and always covered up. The community was very white and bland, and Huey and Riley were outsiders (that was the whole point). There was no nudity, least of all male nudity, and in fact there was an entire series where Robert (the granddad) decried seeing nude Gitmo prisoners on the news. Jasmine’s mixed race was a very big deal and integral to her character, not just an excuse for occasional “high yellow” snarks. And there was LOTS of political commentary which took up entire storylines (even Riley sometimes got into the deal), and it directly mentioned issues involving important figures like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, not hashed together some ham-handed satire with cameo surrogates.

If all this comes off soudning like I didn’t like the cartoon, well…I didn’t like the cartoon. Just so relentlessly ugly and angry and vicious and snarky. A lot of episodes don’t even have proper conclusions, they just cut out with a beatdown in progress or a shaky truce called. And then there’s the shaky-to-horrendous writing, the most blatant example being “Tom Sarah and Usher”, where Sarah displays the intelligence of a brick at least three times (there is no better example of an “Idiot Plot”). Add it all up, and I gotta ask, what’s the point of this show? How is this funny? Informative? Edgy? Creative? Compelling?

Eh…if I were to rate it on IMDB, probably 3/10. Some really good gags, and the drawing style is really nice. About on par with Baby Blues. Major letdown from the comic (which was brilliant and always underrated).

Seriously, though, I’d like to have opposing viewpoints, analyses, explanations, even critiques. Go ahead, be brutal. (Not as brutal as Grandpa, though.)

  • Yeah, well, maybe I did put two Homestar Runner references in this OP on purpose! What of it? :slight_smile:

It’s been so long since I saw it on TV, I only remember it not being quite as good as season 1. I definitely don’t remember any nudity or, but maybe that’s just the DVD/TV difference. I thought Boondocks season 1 was one of the best opening seasons of just about any comedy show (not just cartoons). The satire and social commentary were ballsy and completely on point. The great animation and jazzy hip-hop soundtrack just make it all gel perfectly.

I feel like I’ve been waiting for season 3 forever, anybody know the airdate?

Well, it was pretty memorable. The first scene of the first episode featured full frontal Grandpa. Then there was the episode that opened with Tom’s nightmare about dropping the soap in the prison shower room, where the camera panned slowly down the body of a huge, nude prisoner, and when it got to the penis it kept panning down, and down, and down, and the penis, which was bigger around than my arm, kept going, and going, and going…I wouldn’t be surprised if something like that wasn’t actually broadcast.

I enjoyed the comic strip but was disappointed at the tv version. Granted I only gave it one episode, and I think it was an episode where they travel to somewhere else, so that might have made it more intense. But it just seemed to me like the show was basking in the same things that the comic was making fun of. And it was very loud and shrill.

one day, when my children are not still learning to talk, I will watch the rest of the Boondocks. I saw two episodes, and they were beautifully animated, and thought provoking and very funny.

I only know it from AS, and it took me a few episodes to warm up to it. My wife liked it and turned me on to it. Of course, she is a lot smarter than me.

The more I watched, the more I liked it. Now, I can’t get enough. Never saw the strip (didn’t even know there was one) or any of the uncut DVD stuff.

Damn funny, and it’ll make you think about stuff. Very well written and not what it appears on the surface. One of the better offerings out there, in my opinion.

“Catcher Freeman” is indicitive of certian trends, in my mind. History reinvented by factions and eventually exposed to piss off everybody. Brilliant episode, and damn funny!

This is exactly why I can’t stand the show. I love the original comic strip and was really excited they were turning it into a show. And then we got… whatever the hell the show was. It definitely didn’t have any relation to the comic strip other than that the names were the same.

The comic strip is clever and almost subdued in its humor. The show is not, and I gave up after two episodes during season one. Apparently it got worse.

Oh, man. This is…man. Seriously, we’re not even into double digits, and this is the most agreement I’ve gotten for one of my OP’s on this board, like, ever. Bookmarking! :slight_smile:

Joey Tightlips - I wish I were just making this up. Two episodes on that rental alone, the Stinkmeaner possession and Thugnificent. No female nudity that I know of, but I understand that that’s a vastly different jar of oysters, to put it mildly.

According to IMDB, Season 3 is slated for 2010. Yeah, it’s amazing how long it takes for a new episode to come out. I actually thought it was cancelled.

I just picked up what was in Blockbuster Video at the time. Is the first season really that different? I know that some shows change their focus fairly quickly, but after just one season?

everyone - Here, just to give you some idea, a quick synopsis of Tom Sarah and Usher, a perfect example of EVERYTHING that’s wrong with this show. This one made less sense than Homsar after five Cold Ones*.

We begin with the intrepid couple in a classy restaurant having a pleasant special-occasion dinner of some sort. Tom steers the conversation dangerously close to prison rape, but Sarah slams the door on that immediately.

Suddenly, R&B star Usher shows up at a nearby table, and Sarah immediatey goes over to him and gushes like a schoolgirl. I mean complete, full-bore giggly schoolgirl gushing. Usher complies, and Tom watches helplessly as Sarah’s undoubtedly expensive dessert melts into a sticky puddle. The waiter, uh, consoles Tom with. “Sure wouldn’t let that s___ happen to me.” (:rolleyes: ), indicating that unlike most waiters, he doesn’t particularly care if a customer never tips him again for the rest of eternity.

The ride home is predictably hostile. Sarah protests that Jasmine acts the same way toward Usher and Tom’s never criticized her for that; Tom counterpoints that Jasmine is 1. 10 years old and 2. to the best of his knowledge, not married. Sarah finally gets fed up and shouts “Stop the car!”.

A stunned Tom seeks solace at the Freeman house (practically a second home to him). Lots of predictable snarking, ridicule, etc., especially from Riley. Quick montage of what a lousy husband Tom is. Huey helpfully suggests that Tom man up and take back what is his. It ends with the Freeman house going from second home to only home.

Cornball musical number, interrupted by Sarah calling Tom and asking him why he’s doing a musical number.

The days drag on, and the Freeman boys are getting impatient with their guest. Grandpa calls in an unlikely ringer, a pimp with a really stupid name. Tom is hesitant even after Grandpa says that he paid $2,500 for the pimp’s services. He reluctanly goes along with it when Grandpa adds that he used Tom’s credit card. Wah-wah-waaaaah. :rolleyes:

The first step is Operation Make Tom No Longer A Wimp So He Can Take Sarah Back is a guided role play session with the pimp’s top employee, Sweetest Taboo. He instructs Tom to berate the practice Sarah. Tom, after a few false starts, does. ST replies with some harsh words of her own. Tom is unprepared for this, but the pimp helpfully delivers the next step: hit her. Unfortunately, ST beats a hesitant Tom to the punch and is soon whaling on him while he (a lawyer who most definitely did NOT adopt the Fight Club mentality, and it probably wouldn’t have helped if he did) stumbles around uselessly.

Next is a tour of the pimp’s elaborate electronic surveillance center (yeah, I know, I know…just try to follow). The pimp elaborates on how he’s able to boss around his subjects without them tearing his throat out. Or something. Suddenly, an alarming development! Sarah’s at the mall, right at the spot where Usher is going to appear in one hour!

Tom immediately sets off. The pimp orders him back, saying that he’s not ready. Tom, finally fed up, tells the pimp where he can shove his good counsel. The pimp smiles. Tom’s ready. Whatever “ready” is.

Showdown. Tom’s instructions are clear: March right up to Sarah, hit her (just a quick slap; he’s not MMA material just yet), and drag her out of there, by her hair if it comes to that. Usher and his posse have just arrived. Sarah walks up to him. Tom bursts onto the scene, then before Sarah can even react, he rears his hand back…

[spoiler]…hitting Usher square on the cheek.

Then it gets really weird. Jasmine materializes out of nowhere (seriously, she wasn’t anywhere in any of the etablishing shots of the mall scene) and demands to know what daddy is doing. Sarah is shocked. Y’see, the flirting, the schoolgirl crushiness, that was all a big act to convince Usher to spend a day with Jasmine (who, as established earlier, is a big fan of his). Which she couldn’t tell him on the ride home, during the phone call, or at any point before tossing him out of their home because…well…uh…just work with it, all right? :rolleyes:

It gets worse for Tom, as Usher’s cronies commence pounding the snot out of him. The pimp and his cohort…who, you’ll remember, got him into this mess in the first place…quietly leave the scene.

Jasmine, completely unconcerned with the massive bodily harm being inflicted on daddy, wails “I’M SORRY, USHER!”

The end.

:rolleyes: x about a hundred[/spoiler]

Uhhhh. Anyone care to defend this? Or explain this? Or at least convince me that this was just a hideous anomaly? Like My Sister, My Sitter. (C’mon, face the facts already, will ya? :slight_smile: )

  • Yes, this again! The Simpsons and The Princess Bride have had enough time, dammit!

Frankly, either you find A Pimp Named Slickback (“It’s like ‘A Tribe Called Quest’, you say the whole thing”) hilarious or you think of the character as “a pimp with a really stupid name”. The whole pimp shtick doesn’t usually do it for me - too much real life brutality for casual humor - but Katt Williams’ delivery and the over the top ridiculousness of the whole stereotypical affair combine to crack me up. I mean, it’s humor - it tickles you or it doesn’t.

Right, right. A Pimp Named Slickback. Y’know, the Brothers Chaps are able to make integral articles and extendo-names funny (most of the time). Here, not really feeling it.

The pimp’s actually one of the better things about the episode (or should I say, less annoying). Heck, it probably would’ve been a lot better to center the whole episode around him. I don’t go for Idiot Plots, I don’t go for anguish, I don’t go for incomplete endings, and I definitely think Tom getting the snot kicked out of him is really old hat.

On an unrelated note, I think the commentary for the Stinkmeaner possession episode spoke volumes. Here is this brilliant, groundbreaking, immensely intelligent and funny writer, and here is a producer who’s been in it from day one and knows the workings of the show inside and out…and they can’t think of anything to say! And when they do offer any commentary, it’s the same old responses to the same old complaints they’ve heard a million times by now.

(Blockbuster took down its collection, so I’m kinda out of luck for the early episodes.)