Anyone seen "Mongol" yet? (No spoilers, please!)

Has anyone had a chance to see Mongol yet? For those that don’t know, it is the story of Genghis Khan, covering his childhood on. Here is one of the trailers for anyone that is interested.

I have been intrigued by this movie since I first learned of it several months ago. Alas, it is only in limited release and everyone knows that Oklahoma does not get limited release movies.

For those of you lucky enough to live in a bigger city, have you seen it yet? How historically accurate is it?

And does anyone know when (if?) it will go into wide release??

I hear GK trashes a sporting goods store in San Dimas, California!

Just kidding! :stuck_out_tongue:

I haven’t heard of the film, but I’ll look around for it. I know it’s not here in Topeka, but Lawrence is only about twenty five miles away. Being a university town it often gets limited releases, and art films that other places don’t. If it’s comes there I think I’ll go give it a try, I love historical epics.

It isn’t in DC yet. I think it’s only in NY and LA at the moment.

Haven’t seen it but found the advert infuriating as the gravel voiced voice over kept calling him G enghis Khan with a Guh instead of Jengis Caan.

Picky I know but how would you feel if somebody kept talking about Adolf Hissler?

Actually, I don’t think I’ve ever heard that second pronunciation. Could you link to something where the name is said correctly?

Okay, I know citing another movie is not exactly scholarly. But the 1965 film Genghis Khan, starring Omar Sharif as Temujin, later styled GK, had it pronounced as Lust4Life mentioned. And it was not his name, but a title, as in “the Genghis Khan”. If I remember it correctly, it meant “World Conqueror”

A friend of mine has a son named Genghis- it is pronounced Jen-gis as in jelly, not Gen-gis as in good.

So were there any pencil companies listed among the corporate sponsors?

I was at the premiere gala of this movie at the Toronto International Film Festival in September 2007. It was really good and loud. We share the same last name and I know people named Kublai but not Genghis. I am not sure if it is historically accurate but it was really good. During the premiere the volume was too high so it was hard to hear but overall I enjoyed it and glad it was my first choice for film festival pick. It is being shown here where I live at the independent film theatre right now.

May have to check it out, if only because ever since my own youth I’ve been something of a fan of Temujin’s (and yes, according to the Mongolian government, the first part of his reigning title is pronounced with the soft-g sound – and they should know).

I haven’t seen it yet, but now I’m going to :slight_smile: Hope they found that knife’s edge of historical justice and good moviemanship.

I saw this a couple of weeks ago at the Seattle film festival.

I give it a B.

Historical accuracy is solid, within the typical boundaries of historical moviemaking. It sticks to known facts in the broad strokes, and fudges only a few of the details (condensing two people into one character, and the like). There’s a couple of scenes where a bit of mysticism creeps in, suggesting that Temujin has been touched by God and is getting some extra help from above, if you know what I mean, but those moments are fleeting.

The most unsatisfying aspect of the movie is structural. See, Temujin’s march to greatness was not a straight line of accumulating power. More than once in his life, he had amassed a certain amount of strength (warriors, wealth, land), and then a more powerful warlord came along and crushed him. He escaped, regrouped, and started over.

The problem with the movie is that they don’t show this regrouping; they don’t explain how Temujin is able to go from having nothing but his name, title, and force of will to having an army of loyal soldiers around him. More than once, we watch Temujin suffer a crushing defeat, and scamper off into the hills; then we see a subtitle, “six months later, with his new army…” That, to me, elides the most fascinating element of the man’s story, how he’s able to walk empty-handed into a group of men and convert them to his cause. In my opinion, that’s what makes Temujin’s story, and Temujin himself, so extraordinary. It’s also, probably, the most difficult part of explaining his life, because leaders at that level come along so infrequently that it’s nearly impossible to identify with and perceive them as individuals; trying to portray a man like this would be insanely challenging for a modern filmmaker.

As such, it’s understandable why the filmmakers might have been intimidated by these transitions, and chose simply to skip over them. (It’s also the part of his life that’s least understood, historically speaking, and would require the most fictionalization, so they’re the easiest scenes to sacrifice in the name of accuracy.) The downside is, watching the movie, watching scene after scene where he starts with some power but gets his ass kicked and runs away, you start to get the feeling that a better title for the piece might be “The Many Failures of Genghis Khan.”

Still, it’s a pretty good movie; it looks great, and you really feel like you’ve been taken back to the period. I can recommend it, despite the fits and starts in the storytelling, and the feeling of being shortchanged on what should have been the most interesting part of the narrative.

I saw this poster for the movie in the paper, and my first thought was, “Jesus, someone finally went and made a Drizzt Do’Urden movie.”

I saw it at a festival back in December. I can’t judge the historical accuracy because I know diddly squat about ol’ Genghis, but I thought it was kind of slow-moving and reminiscent of every historical biopic ever. Seriously, if I never see another evil warlord torch a grass-roofed hut, it will be too soon. It has good production values, but a lot of it felt kind of paint-by-numbers. My husband loved it though, and I think it was popular with a lot of the other people in the audience we saw it with.

I had the pleasure of seeing this a few weeks ago at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art screening. The director Sergie Bodrov was there for a Q&A after the screening. (Side note - although his English is very good and his accent is slight, he has a pronounced stutter which made it tough going for a while.)

He spoke of his influences as Lawrence of Arabia, Kurasowa, and Gladiator. These were all quite clear in the movie. You had the lush wide open spaces, the period details, the teaming hordes on horseback sweeping across the steppes, and the blades glinting in the close-up hand-to-hand battles with copious blood flowing.

At one level the story played as a ‘creation myth’ tale, especially the mytical elements. I have heard this is the first of a planned trilogy, so it only covers the rise to power. I felt that Bodrov was trying for a very personal story and, through his shot choices, pacing, and the performances, he achieved that. To Bodrov, the image of Ghengis Kahn to a Russian is one of a monsterous invader. He wanted to turn that image on it’s head and humanize Ghengis Kahn, and to me it looked like he succeeded.

Now, is it a good movie? I would say yes, and the Academy Award nomination would support that opinion. However, anyone going in expecting to have the same experience as a big studio action flick could be slightly disappointed.

Based on the historical subject matter and the action elements I could see it making some money outside of the art house crowds.

Are there ever lists of where a film will appear? If it came to Kansas City I’d drive that far to see it.

It’s frustrating as all hell. Just try to find out when the picture is opening in DC. Go on, I dare you. Studios seem to keep release schedules a deep dark secret.

I wish Rottentomatoes would separate “Limited Release” into “arthouse theaters in major cities” and “NY and LA only” so that folks who don’t live in those two cities won’t get their hopes up and spend twenty minutes trying to get local showtimes for the next weekend. :frowning: :mad:

I see it’s in Seattle so I may be planning a road trip. I could catch “The Fall” at the same time.

If the gas prices don’t freak me out first, of course. Ugh.

I saw it last night - it finally made it out to OKC.

I really liked it! What really shocked me though, was my husband loved it. I had to drag him there to see it and he kept going on and on about how much he enjoyed it.

I like the way the director handeled the subject. And for once, I saw a movie detailing a historical figure that I didn’t feel like too much of the story was cut out just to fit a pre-set run time.

I really disliked it.

I think it was fine as a general fantasy movie, but I went into it hoping for a glance at one of the more impressive people to ever live on the planet and instead got a fairy tale that happened to call the main character the same name.

Genghis Kahn did not conquer the widest chunk of land ever conquered by trusting to magic and fate. He was an impressive guy, and he deserved to be shown as such.