2.16 miles from the centroid of ZIP code 43201 to the station at 111 E. Town St. Of course, that’s just bus service to the station in Cleveland, or Toledo.
I think true CSI-Style would have the person walk through a High-Frequency Weapon Detecting Unit, which would detect the serial number, the composition of the materials in the boxcutter, and analyze all DNA present on the weapon. It would then cross-reference the serial number and composition to the FBI’s databases, which would show that the DNA on the weapon doesn’t belong to the person carrying the weapon. All in a manner of seconds and from 10 feet away.
Then they’d arrest him and present the evidence, but he’d remain defiant until David Caruso flipped his sunglasses up, at which point he’d break down in tears and confess.
Jeez, Metacom, and I thought Jack Bauer’s shouting was intimidating. Makes me wonder who would crack first?
Why don’t they just point the satellites that they use in 24 at the airports - you know, the ones that can look inside a building and tell you not only how many people there are by room, but also what floor they are on (but can’t find a missile launched towards LA from Iowa).
Anyone wants to ogle me, go right ahead. Then begin visiting a therapist to address your bad taste.
Flying in an airplane exposes folks to radiation as well.
Actually, given some of the people they have working for the TSA, i think i’d prefer that my fellow-flyers get the view.
Might be easier to just crank airline cabins to 72[sup]o[/sup]F, and make everyone fly nude.
Nothing quite like a fuzzy greyscale anatomy picture to really get my engine revving :rolleyes: If those bastards want to see my naked grey ass, that’s on them. They’re gonna have to deal with the image, not me. heh.
Sure, but what about the naked grey, yet somehow strikingly pert breasts of your teenage( daughter (if you have one).
Clearly it’s nonsense to say ANYTHING to increase security is OK; binding all of the passengers from head to foot in duct tape, then loading them onto their flight inside reinforced steel coffins would probably increase security (in some ways) and certainly falls under the umbrella definition of ANYTHING, but I don’t think it would really be an acceptable trade-off.
Cavity searches are entirely consistent with the logic expressed in the OP.
Not acceptable. True, the potential for disaster is lower in a train than a plane. Nonetheless, a well-timed derailment can kill hundreds. Ultimately, we may need to extend similar security measures to ground transport that involves large numbers of people.
I shall take your hypothetical proposal under advisement, consistent with the logic expressed in the OP. Thank you.
Human life is precious. Protecting it from the terrorists must remain our highest priority.
Obviously, I put this post in the wrong thread.
On that note, perhaps I should set my irony aside. (BTW, nice quote Larry.)
Mangetout nailed it: we need to apply a rough cost/benefit approach.
I contend that backscatters are unlikely to pass such a test in practice. On the benefit side, the article shows that their effectiveness is rather less than perfect.
Monetarily, I suspect that the devices are expensive.
Furthermore, not having my naked image posted on the internet is certainly an amenity. Indeed, control of that image touches on some rather fundamental privacy issues, not the least of which is the right not to be made to look ridiculous. And I’m a guy.
For many women, cultural conservatives and I suppose certain celebrities and politicians, the stakes may be higher.
The “Nobody is forcing you to fly, etc.” argument is a red herring. While requiring business travelers to undergo strip searches is less burdensome than requiring everyone to do so, the former still impinges on liberty. Meaningful penalties for choosing privacy don’t have to be criminal: some may take the form of lost employment.
I am disturbed that this story has received such little attention. The tradeoffs between security and freedom should be a matter of public debate. Furthermore, the notion that other benefits of civilization -liberty and privacy are two- can be worth more than safety should be conventional wisdom[sup]1[/sup].
Finally, I don’t necessarily want to rule out this technology. With the proper procedures and automatic pixelization of the head and other areas, judicious application of this technology might be acceptable. But I suspect that in the end expeditiousness would prevail.
[sup]1[/sup] Weak spot in my post: perhaps this is conventional wisdom of a sort. Still, one might think that discussion of trade-offs could be a little more explicit.
Did you think airport security couldn’t get any more invasive? guess again.
Low paid airport security cretins are now going to be ogling yours or your wives’ or your daughters’ nude bodies as you go through security. It’s necessary to protect our freedom and dignity, you see.
So, how does somebody become an airport screener, anyway? Is there a form I have to fill out or something?
I imagine that the controls for those things will lock up due to some “mysterious sticky substance” gumming up the works.
I wonder if there’s an S-Video out on those things?
-Joe
quick, you should tell this poster !
Well, actually, this strikes me as less invasive than a pat-down or having a magnet-wand slid over me.
I save those last two activities for non-travel occasions.
I hate when that happens. :smack: I looked to see if this had been done but I missed it.
Apologies for a redundant thread.
I demand that all passengers get an up to the elbow full cavity search! I won’t be happy until everyone on the plane feels as if they have been probed by a moose! Further, I am writing my legislators to demand that they institute a mandatory nudist policy for all commercial flights.
You might want to be careful about advocating that “full nude” policy. There are some people that require two seats. It’s your call.