Apparently, Denorex shampoo kills head lice

Seconded / thirded etc.

On topic: when Moon Unit brought back more than memories from summer camp (and dumb Mom here, every time she complained about itching I just reminded her to go wash her hair) we used a round of Nix, but I knew they were developing resistance so I followed it up with an every-other-day dose of olive or almond oil.

I’d get her head and hair pretty well soaked with it, comb it through, have her sit around for a bit with a disposable shower cap, then I’d take a steel nit comb (not the cheap plastic one that came with the Nix) and go through her hair. The first time I did this I found several lice that were too large to be freshly hatched, so while the Nix reduced the population almost to zero, it left several resistant ones behind.

By the third time I did this regimen, I was not finding anything. Still, we repeated the Nix treatment in a week or whatever the box said. We did the oil soak / comb-through every other day for 2 weeks, and while probably unnecessary we washed her bedding every day or two as well.

Of course, by the time we realized what was going on, I’d managed to catch 'em from her. I made my husband check my scalp and he pronounced me clean. The next day, I decided to run the comb through my own hair, and got a “hit” with about the second pass of the comb :mad:. So the poor guy had to help me use the Nix on myself, and do several rounds of nit-combing.

A good (metal) comb is essential. If you’ve got long hair, plastic hair clips are useful in helping to section off bits. I would take most of an hour to do the poor kid’s head.

A friend did the Vaseline thing on herself, her husband, and her 10-year-old - and while that did work (after other tries had failed), they spent days trying to get the residue out of their hair. I think it required a couple go-rounds with Dawn detergent.

Not that the olive oil was that easy to get rid of, but usually 3 rounds of shampoo solved the problem.

We’re dealing with the same problem as I write. I used Denorex about 30 minutes ago and I’m about to go and rinse then repeat. Only couple of things; 1. Can’t find a lice comb of any kind anywhere and 2. I’m wearing a shower cap on my head. I can feel the little bas***rds dropping from my head, Anything I should be doing different?

Q

Me too. :frowning:

S’what I came in to say.

You might try a pet store for a flea comb which has the teeth pretty close together; might work? I haven’t had to use it on nits so I can’t swear it would work. Anyone?

Walgreens, or any other store should have them, if they don’t sell them on their own, they’ll be in the Rid kits. They’re plastic, but they’ll work.

When my daughter had lice, I found it much more effective to just cut them out. I have a little tiny scissors and a few times a day I went through her hair with that scissors and a flashlight and when I found an egg I cut that out that strand of hair. It was, IMO, a lot easier than using the comb. I knew I was making progress, when I could pull them out one by one and know that there were less each time. I did this probably two or three times a day for at least a half hour each time and it took 2 or 3 weeks. This was on top of the shampoo and everything else that went into it. Of course, this requires someone to help, if you don’t have a second set of hands/eyes, the comb is probably the only way.
As for something else to do, my advice is to remember that they are lice, not bedbugs. They die within a few hours of leaving your head and they really don’t travel very far. So it’s unlikely that you’ll get rid of them all and get them back a few weeks later. Similarly, it’s difficult to get them and/or give them, they don’t fly or jump, you damn near have to rub your hair in someone elses (ie hug them) or let them wear something of yours. So while you may want to keep people an arms distance away, it’s not that you need to live in a bubble for a month.

Lastly, as I mentioned, they only live a few hours (6? 12? 24? something like that) off your body, so you don’t need to go crazy vacuuming your house and bagging everything you own. Again, they’re not bed bugs. However, what I did when my daughter had them is everything she used through out the day was tossed on her bed. So, a blanket she sat in front of TV with, a towel she used after taking a shower etc. Then I took all that stuff and her bedding and put it all in the dryer for an hour. But that’s because she was in direct contact with it and would be in direct contact with it again very soon.

There’s lots of websites out there, read them carefully, use some common sense to sort out what’s probably right vs what’s probably not right and you’ll be fine.

And a few months after this is all over and you see something in your hair, it’s probably dandruff not lice and every time your head itches for the rest of your life, it’s probably just an itch.

PS, there are some services that will come out and nitpick your hair for you. Many of them are expensive but offer a guarantee. That is, they’ll charge you $250 but they’ll keep coming back until they’re gone.

Thanks, Joey P and kayT. I found a flea comb on Amazon which I ordered. Till then I will used hair gel and hair spray on top of that and a nd a shower cap on top of that… Lots of both the gel and spray. Does anyone know if these buggers are nocturnal? I notice a lot of itching at night.

Re: norinew. I miss her as well. She was a frequent poster on my blog and always gave great advice.

Thanks

Q

I don’t think they’re nocturnal, I think you’re just noticing it at night with out any other distractions. No specific advice for that, but my suggestion would be to take a couple of benadryls to help knock you out faster and sleep through the night.

If you’re going to use any kind of a leave-in product in an attempt to kill them or make your head unattractive/uninhabitable to them, remember, they attach to your hair right at the base. They feed on blood and that’s what they’re after. So you’ll have to get anything you put on their right down to your scalp. Misting your head with hair spray probably won’t do much.

Of course, there’s always the nuclear option. If you’re ever wanted to try shaving your head…this is a great excuse to do it. And then they’re gone.

When you shampoo the 2nd Time do you then leave it on for two nights?

My ex did it so I don’t know. I assume she followed the directions, though I know she rushed the second treatment, so I don’t know for sure. As far as I know, she just rinsed it out. To be clear, she just used the Rid stuff from Walgreens, not Denorex.

Also, if you use Rid (can’t speak for Denorex), you shouldn’t rush the second treatment. It doesn’t kill nits, only the live louse. So, the idea is, you do the first treatment which kills all the lice, but leaves the eggs. The eggs hatch in about a week, then you do a second treatment to kill those bugs. Rushing the second treatment will, in theory, do nothing since you’re just shampooing the eggs and the Rid doesn’t have any effect on them, you have to wait for them to hatch.

So, one treatment, wait a week, second treatment. But every day during that and for about a week afterwards (then going to every other day, once a week etc), use the lice comb or if you have a helper have them pick through your hair with a flashlight.

I need to get a haircut, but I’m too embarrassed. Right now, I have my hair covered with white conditioner and a shower cap, hoping to smother them before combing them out - when? A couple of days from now? Tomorrow? I have given myself three Denorex treatments today and combed out nits after every one.

My wife says they don’t like dirty hair, so I should wait a couple of days before doing ANYTHING at all? I’m very confused. Not that I needed lice to help with that.

Isn’t it great we have each other? Lots of love and nary a louse.

Q
PS: Thanks, Joey P Got the comb every day tip.

That’s not actually true. They don’t care how clean or dirty your hair is. What lice don’t like is hair with “product” on it like gels, hairspray or greasy goo. Plain old dirty hair is what you think of when you read about louse ridden beggars, thieves and prisoners. Greasy goopy or over-sprayed hair is what you think of when you see the movies Grease or Porky’s. The product makes it hard but not impossible for the lice to lay their eggs on the hair shafts.

Now my head is itching.

Cutting off the hair was standard treatment during my childhood.

I remember a couple kids sporting crew cuts in elementary school. I don’t recall what shampoos they used to kill the lice.

Any coal tar based shampoo is great for mild psoriasis and probably does kill lice.

I have Denorex in my shower.

Many (most? all?) won’t go near hair with lice in it until it’s been clear for X weeks. you may just want to wait it out. I don’t know how well trimmed you keep your hair, but if you can push it off a few weeks, that’s probably for the best. You’d hate to have them start cutting your hair and then notice them.

I had my niece (hair dresser) come over to cut my hair off - I mean BALD, but when she combed through it first she told me she didn’t see any live, nits or nymphs, so she gave me what amounts to a buzz cut. All that does is make them easier to find.

Both my niece and wife agree that I just think I have lice - that it’s all in my (and on) my head.

"Just humor me then’, I said.

This morning I gave myself two shampoos with Denorex. The first got put on and left on for 30 minutes. After that, a comb-through, and then another shampoo with Denorex. Rinse, comb-through and then I let the hair dry on its own.

I get the part about not washing my hair for 2 days (maybe more - depends on the product), but what do I do about the critters that are still on my head, crackling at night, under the shower cap; itching - that terrible itching!!! I have sores on my scalp where I have dug into it. I have to do this on my own, since I don’t want to transfer them to my wife - which also means no hugs when I tuck her in at night. Plus, she really doesn’t think I have them.

I heard from one person who told me the only way to get them all is to find a strand of hair and then, using thumbnails and fore fingernails. Slide the nits up and off the hair shaft. Whoopee.

In addition to the itching and crackling, some of them have found their way into my outer ear.

It’s now 3:10 am . When it opens, I plan to call my local VA clinic and ask them to check me. I am in hopes I am not the only lice-laden veteran in the area.

I also read an online article about a “Super-Strain” of lice which supposedly began in Colorado. There is a map which shows infestations and Georgia is on that map.

Anything I’m missing? I sleep mainly from exhaustion, since I take care of my wife who had a stroke about 2 years ago. She’s not totally incapacitated, but it doesn’t matter: the doctors call it a “developing” stroke and so I watch her.

My life is a sitcom.

Q

Return of the Zombie Lice!

I guess I should have started my own thread. It didn’t occur to me until now. Thanks for the reminders. Can this be moved and re-titled, please?

Q

Quasi - I think maybe you’re letting your imagination run away with you. The Denorex should kill the lice, but you still have to comb them out. And it doesn’t kill the nits, that’s why you have to repeat the shampoo - to kill the nits between hatching and their laying more eggs.

Don’t forget to wash your bedding and spray your bed with the insecticide.

StG

Yeah, you may be right. (I may be crazy) We’re going start all over.

  1. Shampoo kills the live ones

  2. Comb-through thoroughly to get the live ones out

  3. Rinse

  4. The nits left by the live ones hatch.

  5. Repeat from number 1 after 7 days to kill the live ones which have now hatched from the nit stage I left them in when I started with STEP 1.

Am I missing something?

Thanks

Q

PS: “Insecticide”. Is there one you would recommend?

I had an employee who battled head lice on her kids for over three months. She said overall she spent over a thousand dollars and many, many hours until they were eradicated. Now she tells me there are businesses in every major city that will do the treatments guaranteed for $180.

Not fun I know.