Oh, come on. This was not a narrow technical point about the arts. She was clearly saying that shutting down Hollywood would leave the American people bereft of quality entertainment. Her disdain for football and MMA was absolutely clear from her tone.
He develops very high rent properties.
The only working class problem he understands is they cost too much.
And he has a solution to that.
That was one of the poorest parts of her speech. It simply isn’t true what she said about that incident. The reporter Trump mocked was a legitimate target for mocking. Trump can’t complain too much though(not that that’ll prevent him) as that part of Streep’s speech is an example of the whole fake news post truth moment we now live in. If you live by truthiness you die by truthiness.
Let me think about the OP for a minute:
Well, sometimes they are, and sometimes they aren’t.
Absolutely. And sometimes the same celebrity can be an excellent spokesperson for one cause and an atrocious person for another. I give you Bob Geldof as a prime example. Alleviating famine in Africa - excellent, keeping the UK in the European Union - not excellent.
Were you cool with Jerry Lewis’s telethons?
Were you cool with a reality star waging a war against a sitting president, WRONGLY asserting he was not a born citizen?
Howie Mandel speaking out about mental illness?
In an age of outright lies spread as fake news, and a president elect who can’t seem to open his mouth with uttering an untruth, (I’ll put her in jail, Mexico will pay for the wall, etc, etc,), an actress expressing her personal views seems like pretty small potatoes to me.
What exactly does make that reporter a legitimate target for mocking his disability? And what in Meryl Streep’s speech do you deem to be factually incorrect? The intel I have been able to come up with seems to indicate that she is pretty much spot on. Now the WP may not exactly be unbiased, but they make a convincing case here. Do you have access to other facts?
I suggest Trump was not mocking the reporters disability. It’s pretty much the same gesture Trump gives when he is mocking a public figure for walking back a statement or becoming flustered. He did the same kind of gestures and hand waving when criticizing public figures before this specific incident and the same kind of gestures afterwards. The reporter mocking gesture was not a one off. However, only Trump knows whether or not he exaggerated this specific gesture for effect this time. The evidence of his previous attempts at mocking people suggests he was not mocking the reporters disability.
As I just posted in another thread:
Let’s say a person uses the term “retard” to insult people he disagrees with. If he then uses the term “retard” in relation to someone with a disability, that person is still mocking that person’s disability. Just because he accuses other people of having a mental disability doesn’t mean that the person isn’t being mocking disabled people – either in general or one in particular.
Or better yet, for those upset with Streep, were they okay with an actor running for Governor of California and later President?
She isn’t the first celebrity to mix in politics and will hardly be the last.
There’s no such thing as “ordinary America” and everyone lives in their own private bubble these days. The right-wing certainly like to pretend that they represent ordinary, hard-working citizens and that anyone who disagrees with them lives in a bubble disconnected from reality (and, on the more extreme side, that those people are godless communist libtards living off taxpayers’ money), but the truth is they believe that because that’s the message they tell themselves in their own little bubble.
Meanwhile, one thing that that little private bubble that is Hollywood does represent is the creative sector, which provides some of the biggest American exports year-on-year and generates over 3% of the GDP. Which brings in a lot of tax revenue, which in turn pays for all those farm subsidies and the benefits for all those poor white “ordinary American” Republican voters.
While at work yesterday, I read the transcript and would have agreed. After watching the video, I thought she was trying to make a joke about the A in MMA being “art”.
I think she was sort of piling on a humorous point about the “art” in MMA. But in no way does anyone generally refer to football as an art, martial or otherwise.
She was clearly saying that shutting down Hollywood would leave America with substandard forms of entertainment, such as the lowly spectacle of sports.
I think this at most falls under microaggression; something most of the public imo doesn’t give a two hoots about.
Heck, Trump didn’t even use the same gestures as the reporter has shown in the few brief clips I have seen of him.
I think we have to be careful with labels. Calling someone a “Hollywood Celebrity” tells your brain to not consider that specific person’s life experiences and substitute a lazy stereotypical notion instead. Are “Cab Drivers”, “Union Reps”, “Teachers”, “Police”, “Welders”, etc. good spokespeople for other areas? Perhaps they are, perhaps they aren’t. It depends on the persons individual experience, not the label we affix them with.
So, it’s not an insult because it’s a*** bad*** impersonation?
You mean Mixed Martial Arts aren’t really art? Holy crap!!! :eek:
I try to live my life according to the precepts of Ted Nugent.
For those of us on the Right, it does get tiresome and annoying to sit through political statements from pop culture stars, who tend to represent the far left.
But I can’t fault anyone in the spotlight for using that spotlight to promote whatever causes he or she supports. I’m sure I’d do the same if I were any kind of celebrity.
A: Trump was an asshole to that reporter.
B: No, see here he is being an asshole to other people in the same way.
A: …
I don’t have any issue with celebrities using their notoriety to advance their politics, but at this point acceptance speeches have become a bit contrived. Honestly I’d rather hear a funny story about the movie or people you worked with than a tangentially related political rant. There’s a time and a place, I’m sure Meryl Streep could find a news outlet that would be happy to interview her in a more relevant setting.
Also, were the Hollywood press even that maligned this past year? I was under the impression that “lying media” was more of dig a CNN, MSNBC, ect. rather than E! and TMZ.