Okay, of the four main gender-gender attraction slots, this is the only one that I have never heard express bodily lust for their chosen object of affection.
It’s a given that males lust after the female form, and if anything I hear that gay men are even worse lusters after a suitable male bod. And women sometimes admire men for other than purely aesthetic purposes
But, while I sometimes hear lesbians comment about how a given woman looks good, they don’t seem to do so more than hetero females, which leads me to believe that it’s just a generic feminine appreciation of beauty that hetero females can shower on each other as well as lesbians.
I wouldn’t comment on this except for the fact that I’ve NEVER heard any comments that lead me to believe that a real-life lesbian is turned on by another woman’s looks. Never ever ever. I’ve wondered about this for a long time, but since it isn’t issue number one for me I haven’t posted it until now. (Maybe I’m bored today? :D)
Also, if you know that this is NOT the case, why is it that I haven’t heard something like this? Have I just missed innuendo? Or are lesbians just not as forward due a societal dislike of expressions of feminine sexuality, or for some other reason? (Perhaps woman and men feel free to lust after a man’s body because they know he might reciprocate, and men feel free to express lust after a woman’s body because they don’t know any better or just don’t care, whereas if a lesbian is smart enough to know that comments like that would cut down on her romantic chances? Okay, I’ll stop my gross generalizations about gender.)
Wow. I cannot count how many times I have heard a lesbian describe the terribly naughty things they would do with Angelina Jolie. And that’s just to pick the most obvious example in my head. Suffice to say: I think it comes down to comfort level. Some lesbians are just more open than others about expressing how much they lust after this person or that. Maybe the ones you know (and please don’t take this as a personal attack) just aren’t comfortable saying that stuff around you.
Priam, I’ve never heard it in person, but I’ve also never seen it on a post on the SDMB. Perhaps I’ve read it somewhere on the 'net, but you shouldn’t go believing everything about sex you read on the 'net
Keep in mind that lots of lesbian women are politicized, are feminists who are conscious of patriarchy and the position into which women have been leveraged by it. Especially the personal shit, the sexual shit that would tend to offend lesbian women: Hey girlie, yer place is to look yummy-cute for the menfolks. Ooooweee, you look good in them pants / hippie skirts / dungarees / designer dresses / running shorts / whatever! I’m just ever so sure you put that thang on to entice me, well here I am in all my drooling glory!
So there’s a thread of ‘tude going on there to the effect of "I dont’ give a shit what I look like or who does or doesn’t like it". Reaction-rebellion.
And because reaction-rebellion says the assholes who pissed you off are responsible for your mindset, lots of lesbians have moved beyond what men might or might not do think or say about how women look in deciding how they feel about how they look, or how they feel about how other women look. So yeah, some lesbians are pretty open about lusting after other women just from seeing them. And a smaller group, perhaps, is overt about wanting to look cute to other lesbians. (There, too, politics enters. To be the looking person is to be an agent, something that was for males and denied to females. So to rejoice in ogling women on the basis of appearance is still radical due to being the ogler and not the oglee. But to tell the world how much you want other women to lust after you on the basis of looks is probably still to invite a comment or five about how you’re still being defined by the mainstream world and what it wants to be important to women, etc.
Real lesbians may tear this apart and explain what’s wrong with it. Wait and see.
That’s too funny, SHAKES. My sympathies, though; my sister could get MUCH hotter women than me in our youth. Stupid sister.
If I’m around friends I’ll definitely say something about a woman who is attractive to me. But I’ve noticed older lesbians (say 55+) don’t. Then again, same for older straight women and men.
Heavens, I dunno. Looks may make me turn my head, but talk geeky to me for hours on end and I am yours, yours, yours.
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I’ve been to strip clubs, sitting next a… butch lesbian… where they’ve said things much much much more crude and vulgar than any guy I’ve ever heard.[/spoiler]A butch lesbian is a “they”? How does that work?
Isn’t there a difference between finding a body attractive and being publically crude about it? I’m not lesbian, and I don’t even have a joke to follow that statement, but I have the ability to “lust” after an attractive female without being crude about it. Even when I was younger the most I’d say to another guy was “Check that woman out over there” though I have known a few guys who would say something like “I’d fuck the dog shit out of her.” I’d never be comfortable saying something like that to anyone.
I am sure women look at other women, or men depending on their orientation, and their minds might be filled with thoughts of lust. It’s only natural.
Maybe the girlz in Orlando just aren’t very chatty, or not very chatty around you . I probably look at women the same way you do, and even though “feminine” women aren’t really my thing, I appreciate them. If you pick up a lesbian magazine like “Curve”, or “On Our Backs” (if you’re feeling brave) I’m sure you’ll detect “expressions of bodily lust”, it’s just that it may or may not be what you find attractive as a het male (I’m assuming you are one.) I don’t care how “PC” you are, everybody likes an nice ass . Also, when I was single, women who commented favorably on my appearance were hardly cutting down their romantic chances. I find my spousette incredibly hot on every level. In fact, I think I’ll go leap on her now. 'Night!
I lust after attractive women’s bodies. In certain groups of people, I have no trouble verbalizing this as is appropriate. In other groups of people, I’ve found that if I make a comment about some of the deliciously naughty things I’d like to do to a lady, I suddenly become a sex object to the straight men present.
Lesbians are a stereotypical straight man’s fantasy. That’s not something every lesbian wants to be, which is enough for many to keep their thoughts to themselves.
I can’t help but think the lesbians you know are not comfortable speaking openly around you for some reason. Do you think that might be the cause? Do you actually associate with them in situations where it would be appropriate to talk about women’s bodies?
. Also, when I was single, women who commented favorably on my appearance were hardly cutting down their romantic chances. I find my spousette incredibly hot on every level. In fact, I think I’ll go leap on her now. 'Night!