Are pilots supposed to look both ways before crossing the runway?

Just in case you missed the news, there was a close call at Midway Airport yesterday, with a Southwest Airlines jet aborting a landing with seconds to spare just as an errant business jet crossed the runway. Caught by a planespotter:

AIUI, the biz jet did NOT have clearance to cross the runway, and the day was saved by the attentive Southwest cockpit crew. Whew.

It seems like looking left and right before crossing the runway would have made this a non-incident. But I’m not a pilot, so what do I know?

For a plane that’s about to cross a runway, is it standard procedure to look both ways before doing so? Or, if you believe you’ve got clearance to cross, are you expected to not waste time/neurons on such a check? Is the visual environment too messy for a crossing pilot to reliably identify an aircraft that’s landing or taking off on the runway he’s about to cross?

Yes, they are supposed to look both ways.

But since everything I know about piloting a plane comes from watching youtube videos, here is an actual pilot’s thoughts on the incident.

Another pilot’s point of view:

Left, right, and up. Pilots deal with movement in three dimensions, not just two.

That said, people do make mistakes from time to time. Which is why everyone has to be alert at an airport. Thank goodness this did not result in disaster.

For clarity, what does “supposed to” mean? Is it a “good pilots will X”, best-practices kind of thing? Or is it an actual FAA requirement?

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Commercial pilots are supposed to do everything possible to avoid runway incursions. Tactics include:

  • Looking both ways and up, and verbally declaring the approach path clear before taxiing onto the runway

  • Never crossing a runway hold-short line without being 100% certain you were cleared to do so

  • If there is even the slightest doubt, ask ATC to reconfirm the clearance

  • We use proper phraseology to avoid any ambiguity

  • In recent years the signage has improved, and some airports have lighting systems that help prevent taxiing onto an unsafe runway

But it obviously still happens from time to time. We have a lot of data gathering strategies in place for when the system fails to prevent an incursion.

This pilot always viewed it as a form of self-preservation, but beyond that - yes it’s a “best practice” thing, a “good pilot” thing. Regrettably, the days when I could quote regulations chapter-and-verse are in the past, and anyhow, this might vary by country as well.

The pilot of the private jet had instructions to hold short of the runway. In communications he’d flubbed readbacks and been corrected by the tower. (Link to VASAviation channel on Youtube, video includes ground and tower ATC communications spliced in temporal sequence, along with graphics indicating position of the aircraft and highlighting the various taxiways and runways called out.

I was looking at the flights for the private jet - unsurprisingly, it hasn’t gone out again. I wonder if FlexJet has a whole stable of available pilots, or how that works.

Yes, FlexJet is a big company with lots of planes and pilots. I have friends who work there, and I hope they weren’t involved in this incident.

As I mentioned in the GA thread, that crew has likely been taken off the schedule to submit reports and talk to the company about what happened. The flight itself was probably cancelled and possibly reassigned.

Cancelling the flight is a pretty serious disruption for the passenger(s) and cost for the airline. So who makes that decision, and what purpose does it serve? Punitive? BAC check? Mandatory safety stand-down? Somebody in charge said “you two are clearly too broken-headed to fly today, so we’re gonna send two other pilots instead”?

I don’t know for a fact that’s what happened, but after that sort of incident I doubt I would continue my work day. Especially since it happened before leaving the ground.

Charter companies often have logistical problems that require alternate plans - we call that a “recovery”. They might have another plane nearby that could come take over the trip, or another crew. Least desirable is to “off-fleet” the trip and pass it to another company.

The flight that created the incident wasn’t canceled, as best as I can tell. These times look correct.

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I haven’t been there in a long time because it’s my second least favorite US airport, but LAX literally has transfer buses drive on the runway and there were signs instructing the bus driver to watch for planes.

Should a pilot look both ways? Sure. However, consider their mindset. While driving a vehicle on a city street, when the light turns from red to green, we’re given clearance to proceed. Do we look both ways before proceeding or step on the gas? Sometimes we look and sometimes we don’t. I believe it depends on the circumstances.

South Bend, Indiana airport has a train line running through it. So you have planes, trains, and automobiles all in the same area. There are FIVE railroad crossings inside the airport grounds themselves across “internal drives”. Although I hear there are now plans to move the rail line so there would be less interaction between trains and the other traffic. Still, it was weird to be stopped at a train crossing while in an airplane.

On at least some runway crossings, the pilot can’t look back to the approach area. It’s too far back over their shoulder to see. For the more typical case where the taxiway crosses the runway at 90 degrees, the approach area is visible if someone both looks and sees. Pointing your face and eyes out the window is not the same as seeing; that requires a conscious effort to process the scene & focus at the appropriate distance(s).

As to “supposed” …

The actual aviation regulations with the force of law address very little of pilot operating practice.

There are separate “best practices” books put out by the national regulator that contain a lot of the actual details on how to aviate within the system correctly. All of which have some force less than law, but more than mere suggestion. Sorta like “do it this way unless you have a darn good reason not to”.

For a hobbyist pilot that’s all there is in terms of mandatory & semi-mandatory guidance.

For an airline or a quasi-airline like NetJets of FlexJets, they have an official pilot procedures manual which can go into painful detail with a script for nearly every activity. Or can be more cursory. In any case, this document is blessed by the regulating agency. At which point it becomes a legally binding mandatory thing with the force of law for the crews of that company.

For smaller bizjet operators, be they charter operators or just a corporate flight department with a couple jets & a few pilots, they may or may not have any such procedure manuals. But if they do, they’re a) likely to be pretty cursory, and b) do not carry the force of law.


General best practices are for both pilots to stop doing anything else while the airplane is pointed towards a runway. Approaching the runway both pilots say something standardized to indicate they see the thing we’re approaching is a runway, we both intend to cross it, and we both have clearance to do so. Then we turn on a bunch of extra lights, look both ways, and tell the other pilot we have done so and see nothing concerning. Then we enter the runway.

That’s how I did it for 30 years at 2 major carriers. I can’t say the policies are just like that every quality operator, but they probably are close.


Back to this instant case, with all the flubbery on the radio it is unclear to me that the crew understood they were supposed to hold short. Midway is also rather a lot of confusion stuffed into a fairly small space. Lotta ways to think the runway is the next perpendicular pavement ahead of you when in fact you’re already on it. Oops.

It’s also smelling a bit like too much hurry and not enough deliberateness. Which I am told is a bit of a problem in a lot of the bizjet world, even the big operators.

I, for one, always look if i’m up front. I see way too many red lights get run regularly around here to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Same. Not just red light runners but idiots driving in idiotic ways.