But the “audition” still requires those expenses. If she gets cold feet during the “audition”, the producer is still out those costs.
Quite a lot less, I would think.
If your “audition” requires a dozen performers, you’re doing it wrong.
I think we’ve gone a little astray.
The op appears to be talking about the kind of porn that claims that the filmer is pretending to be an agent, but actually isn’t. He finds girls interested in the industry and sets up interviews that become auditions. Claims the video, which he shoots himself with a couple of tripods and a handheld, is to send out to studios to show them. Promises that the jobs they can get will pay a lot of money - a lot more than is typical. Then has them slowly progress through getting naked, playing around, then various sex acts with him.
The site I’m thinking of markets itself as of the girls do not get paid, and it’s a scam to have sex and film them.
There is minimal expense, just a small office room, and only one person doing the shoot.
The women supposedly aren’t even aware when they show up there will be an audition.
This isn’t cheesy “oops I had sex” porn. It involves a lot of women who never become known stars.
I will say I met some female sex performers once, known stars I recognized and have seen their work since. None of them came off as particularly clueless or ditzy or gullible, though admittedly I didn’t spend much time with them, but at least one I did hang out with off duty.
Are there women who could fall for that kind of con? Maybe. Could a website actually get away selling those videos in the US? Highly doubtful.
Yeah. This strikes me as the same sort of contrived low-budget porn as the “loss prevention officer” porn.
For those who aren't familiar with it
Woman is caught shoplifting by the store’s security guard, is brought into a scruffy little office, and it’s suggested the cops will be called unless she services the security guard. Much agonizing ensues, but she decides forced sex is better than arrest. Nakedness ensues. Perhaps with handcuffs.
Clearly that’s not real department store security office surveillance footage of real shoplifters.
There’s apparently a genre of porn customer who gets off on supposedly ordinary women seemingly forced (or bamboozled) into doing sexual stuff. So they create product to service that niche, be it large or small. The sets are simple, the lighting poor, the actors few. So very low cost of production.
I believe it was Sharon Mitchell that said the hardest job she had to do in porn was to be convincing when she had to say “I’ve never done that before” to set up a scene.
That’s the real thing. Eventually someone is going to find out that their video is on Casting-Couch.biz and sue for use of their performance. It could work as a one-off, maybe, but not as a continuing series of videos. And there’s definitely whole series of videos made under the premise, same setting, etc and watermarked with the website. But if you’re just having the paid, consent-signing women say “Golly, you want to me to do THAT to prove I can be a porn actress?” then there’s no issue with it.
I would assume the vast majority of women in “legit” paid porn don’t become stars or known names/faces but I can’t say I’ve ever researched it either.
I’m not sure research is necessary. How many of the people setting out to be famous musicians, actors, authors etc have any degree of success at all? I don’t see why porn films would be different.
I’ve never heard of her before (but that’s not saying much) but seeing your link was to a Wikipedia page I clicked on it. At the bottom of the page, like on many wikipedia pages there’s a Reference section, with links, including one that’s to an IMDB-like site for adult movies.
a) she made a lot of ‘em
b) they were from back in the day when many of those movies were x-rated variants of real movies, complete with slightly altered names. Some of the titles that she was in are freakin’ hilarious!
I think it’s also worth making a distinction between what should happen and what does happen.
Yes in theory a contract should have been signed including at least a basic allusion to what the performance will include, what the pay will be, and the terms for selling/sharing the video, ahead of time.
In practice there are of course bad people in this industry the same as any other. Even performers who are very comfortable with their work now will often say their first experience(s) involved some degree of exploitation or deception.
So: the typical video of this style where they meet on the street, do modelling pics then it becomes a full hardcore scene? Yes, that’s acting.
However, when you see a performer seem uncomfortable about particular acts or the way they are being talked to, that sometimes is real. And videos do get removed sometimes based on (pending) legal or criminal action.
An appropriate prison sentence.
GirlsDoPorn was indeed a “casting couch” operation. That Wikipedia page makes for eye-opening reading. @Jophiel cited it in post #54 in reference to an earlier sentencing. A couple of additional quotes from the article.
Verbal promises were given that the videos would never be released on the Internet or in the United States, only to independent video stores in Australia, New Zealand or South America, or to private buyers…
Vice reported that “the current iteration of the ‘casting couch’ trope is largely based on” Backroom Casting Couch, a series that started in 2007 by a pornographer who plays a role of “deceiving” the women featured in his videos, but in actuality all of the women featured in the series are established porn performers.
Apparently this bunch was the sleaziest of the sleaze but also a true outlier.
This sounds closer to “audition”. But if someone has agreed to perform, and is performing, in a performance that is being taped and could be sold as a product, it’s can’t really be called an “audition”, can it? It’s essentially a product. The only thing close to “audition” is when someone in the biz decides “even doing that nobody will want to watch this.”
IIRC, in the actual (somewhat)SFW movie industry like Hollywood, they do “screen tests” to see who fits the part they want for a bigger production. Sometimes those short clips make it out into the real world or DVD extras, but that is not their intent and they are not actually a product unto themselves