Correct - protect the rest of us from the dumb and jerky.
He had a chance to not reach his gun when he was told to freeze.
Regards,
Shodan
PS - he didn’t have his hands in his pockets.
The only evidence Rice reached towards his toy gun, or was even told to freeze, comes from the assertions of the officers involved who we already know lied about what happened (since their initial assertions conflict with the video evidence). The video doesn’t show any gun reaching (only vaguely and grainily showing a hand movement), and it certainly doesn’t show any orders to freeze (since there’s no sound).
Right, right - the video that shows his hand movement towards his waist where he had his gun doesn’t show any reaching for a gun.
Regards,
Shodan
There’s no toy gun in the video. Who knows where it was? There might have been hand movement towards the waistband, but we already know the officers lied. No idea why anyone would jump at the chance to take their word for something that can’t be verified (at least by the evidence publicly available) when they’ve already been shown to be liars (or to have inaccurate memories).
The gun was found. We don’t have to see it in the video to know that it really existed. It was also mentioned in the orginal report of someone waving a gun around in a park.
Regards,
Shodan
I’m almost positive that Bounkham didn’t volunteer to have a grenade thrown into his crib as part of an organized protest movement. That’s my point - with something like segregated buses, you can select an ideal candidate to demonstrate the injustice to a wider audience. With police shootings, you can’t.
Welcome to decentralized, grassroots protest movements. There’s no savvy head of marketing directing things.
No, it did not.
The latter, for which the former is useful. Again, though, it’s an amorphous, decentralized movement, so there are as many goals as there are participants.
I know the toy gun existed, but it wasn’t seen in the video. If it was on Rice’s person at the moment of his death, it was not visible. The video does not show that Rice did anything wrong at all. The video does directly contradict the report of the officers present (one of whom shot Rice), showing that they lied egregiously or had extremely poor memories.
So what?
This is just bizarre. The original complaint was of someone waving a gun. The video shows him reaching for a gun in his waistband. They find the gun in his waistband.
But we cannot conclude from this that Rice had a gun and was reaching for it. Because racism, or something.
Bizarre.
Regards,
Shodan
The video does not show this. There’s no toy gun visible in the video. In addition to this, the video directly contradicts other aspects of the report of the officers involved.
You’re incorrect about what the video shows. There is no visible toy gun in the video.
It doesn’t make any difference. That Rice had a gun is not established by the video; it is established by the original complaint of someone waving a gun around in the park, the video showing Rice waving it around in the park, his mother’s later testimony that he had the gun, and by the fact that the fucking thing was found on him when he was shot.
But apart from that - yes, there is no reason to believe he had a gun.
Regards,
Shodan
If “it doesn’t make any difference” then why did you insist on something that wasn’t true – that the video showed him reaching for a gun in his waistband? You really believe that the fact that the officers’ accounts differs significantly from the video evidence doesn’t make a difference? I know there was a toy gun, and it’s quite likely Rice played with it and waved it around when the phone call was made. But that doesn’t mean he should have been shot.
The video evidence doesn’t show any actions by Rice that warrant being shot, or that warrant a reasonable fear for one’s life by the police. I agree with Municipal Court Judge Ronald Adrine, that the officer who shot Rice should be charged for the shooting. The matter has not been resolved, and I’m hopeful that the prosecutor will heed Judge Adrine’s recommendation.
Do you really believe that if cops get a call that someone is waving a gun around, that that means they can show up and shoot a child who has taken no aggressive action? 'Cause that’s what the video showed – the cops drove up within feet of Rice, got out of the car and shot him, all within a few seconds. And the video shows that the officers involved lied (or were otherwise extremely mistaken about what happened).
Because the video shows him reaching for a gun in his waistband. You know, the one you didn’t believe in, because it wasn’t on the video. That gun.
Regards,
Shodan
So the nonexistent or invisible gun that wasn’t in the video, then.
Just watched the video again, multiple times. There was no gun visible.
And funny how you keep cutting out of my posts the fact that the officers lied (or were wildly mistaken) about what happened, since the video directly contradicted many of their assertions.
Incredibly foolish protest. The crybabies organized a, “Walk off the Job” protest today in Chicago to demand the resignation of the mayor. There’s a good way to add gasoline to the stereotype that Blacks don’t want to work.
I don’t think the intended audience is those who hate black people.
Nor is it those who “love” black people.
Or at least it shouldn’t be if it is a protest that is actually supposed to make some converts.
I’d imagine that the target is people who are either sympathetic toward the situation or neutral toward it, but don’t (yet) care enough to do anything about it…not people who look at a walkout protest and conclude that it was an excuse for black people to get out of working.
I’m all for stupid people playing stupid games winning stupid prizes. But there is a problem with the law enforcement and criminal justice branch of the state. There isn’t much recourse for those who are victimized by corrupt police of other state officials because the state does a good job protecting itself. A lot of what BLM does is justifiable. Some of their stances are pure left wing lunacy but the prosecution of dirty police is not.
We used our legislators to ban traffic cameras.
We think it’s a better way to solve the same problem. Personally the rioting and burning of businesses seems foolish and unwise to me.
Did ya give 'em what for?