Funny, I don’t recall must said about the Arab (and Islamic) effort to stop terrorism. Hmm… I think their actions, or lack there of, speaks louder than words!
- Jinx
It’s not looking for Bin Laden, but Jordan is sharing intel with the US, freezing bank accounts, hunting down al Qaeda cells and such. Most of the rest of the Arab and Muslim countries are doing or have done similar things.
Maybe these Arabs should invade other countries in order to appear more dedicated in hunting down Terrorists ?
Don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve been reading quite a lot lately about Saudi efforts to combat terrorism, at least the domestic variety. Yemen, as I recall, cooperated fairly extensively with the US investigation of the attack on the USS Cole
Who are “the Arabs” the OP refers to? What makes the OP think the population of the Middle East in general, or Islam in general, bear direct responsibility for all world terrorism?
Carrot and stick policy for Pakistan:
US wants Osama captured by July
Because Muslims themselves insist up and down that they’re all “brothers”. And these attacks are being carried out in their name. They certainly don’t hesitate to make it their business when fellow Muslims are getting the short end, like when Malaysian Muslims angrily protested the Afghanistan operation.
Would that be all Muslims, or just some of them?
I see. So if “their” actions speak so loudly, then what are they saying? Or look at it this way. The United States decided to shift attention away from operations against Al Queda and instead focus on stealing oil from Iraq, one of the few nations in the Middle East that never did support Al Queda. Now there’s an action that speaks louder than words, if you ask me.
Wow! Gotta love that reasoning. By that logic, since Christians also consider one another “brothers”, then I guess all Christians are responsible for abortion clinic bombings and the murder of doctors. :rolleyes:
I have posted similar before on this board so maybe the OP should have looked around a bit before posting his OP.
Dear OP.
“Arabs” (as you choose to call us) and other people on this globe dealt with terrorism of all sorts long before any US’er, awakened by planes flying into buildings on US soil, came to make the effort to open his window, to look outside and discover that - oh surprise - there is an other world then the USA.
Having worked in the past for a certain amount of my valuable time - and at most occasions not as my personal wish - at this complicated intertwined and ungrateful and unrewarding issue, let me tell you some little things you obviously have no clue about, yet that worked on the nerves of myself and other “Arabs” -as you choose to call us - when being busy to do what we do (or did):
- There was a time what whenever “Arabs” - as you choose to call us - locked fundamentalist lunatics - who were at that time already trained at some well known locations where the “world” had so called no idea about - safely away in places where they could do no harm, miraculously came “human rights” groups, mostly US ones, to scream fire and murder because the “Arabs” locked up what the “human rights” idiots called THE OPPOSITION . Yes. You read well: The opposition. (They had and have also other funny names for potential mass-murderers.)
- The “human rights” groups of various colours and recruting became in many cases that vocal and became over time that good in their clueless lobbying, that several of those poor persecuted dangerous potential terrorists got out of where they were placed by “the Arabs”, as you choose to call us.
- Next the poor persecuted ones went chearfully and in the best of their moods to the Western nations and told that they were poor persecuted asielment seekers. They got asielment. They got in many cases the Western nation’s nationality as a personal gift for their coming. They went on recruting among the immigrant Muslims, free and undisturbed singing their hate and war and terrorist speaches.
= The stupidity and arrogance of the Western nations played right in their cards. They could preach hate and terrorism inside their new “homelands” where nobody but the Muslim immigrants understood one word of what they were saying. As such they could recrute young people, they could sent them to the well known training locations. And they are still doing the very same.
You have no idea what you talk about, so let me inform you about something that obviously had up to now no place in your mind: ** With every single stupid step the US government undertakes to openly show its hypocrisy in matters of the ME, the lunatical yet not stupid fundamentalists gain a fresh recruting field.**
You also have no idea that “the Arabs” - as you choose to call us - who try to fight this sea have only a bucket to stop the flood. The USA never stopped to shoot holes in that bucket.
And now, with the Bush Maffia and all its arrogant stupidity, “the Arabs” - as you choose to call us - have even no bucket left to try to stop the waves.
So instead of wasting your time by posting your nonsense here, write to the US government with your complaints. You could tell them a lot of things with my compliments, but seen the fact that you talk here about “Arabs”: Tell them to start with chasing all the lunatical Wahabbi Imams that operate on US soil (and elswhere, but let’s start with the US) back to where they came from, instead of kissing the behind and licking hand and feet of Bandar The Best Friend Saudi. A time passing of one US president after the other.
Salaam. A
Aldebaran, as you know, you are a very bright star in the sky, indeed. And, on this Board, too. Your points are very well stated, indeed. I am sorry if the term “Arab” was offensive; it is my ignorance and I really don’t understand why it is so upsetting, but forgive me. I am not too proud to admit I am a near-sighted American. Yet, I was trying to speak of the people of what I have always thought of as the “Arab nations”. Technically, I should say “Arab nation-states” as opposed to a “nation” which, technically, refers to a group of people sharing a common heritage, culture, history, set of beliefs, etc…which needs no boundaries to be one “nation”.
That said, I agree that the US, so often, thinks it is trying to do what is right, but it is doomed to failure because the bureaucratic machine looks for the simple band-aids to fix every problem instead of addressing the root cause. It seems more cost-effective and simple to do so - with everything, even our domestic issues. In short, as the expression goes, we “pass the buck” and problems get swept under the rug until someone else, or some other generation, has to deal with it. Isn’t it so much easier to say “not my problem”. Alas, even in the US, the citizens are all victims of our very own political machine. Although not intended to be this way, the centuries have caused us to drift from the ideal visions and goals of our forefathers. We have drifted to the point where, somewhere along the road, we have created a monster that the voters do not really control. It is the kind of monster that grows ten more heads everytime you cut one off.
Now, in the specific case of my thread, the matter runs deeper than we’ll ever really know, but you’ve hit the nail on the head regarding your last statement (quoted above). I WAG the one question the Arab nations would ask of me in return is: Why should the other Arab nations care enough to go hunting for him? You have given me much to think about; nonetheless, for all our (US’s) faults, that does not excuse Bin Laden’s actions.