Are the multiple penetrations that occur in sex biological or cultural?

This might be the best How do you Hyoo-man? thread yet!

I learned it at 27.

SOMEONE has to stick up for Umbridge, and I guess I’m the guy (yes, I am male) to do it.

First, a short autobiography: I was born in the 1950s, and have lived more than 90% of my life in the USA, all of that being in NY and NJ. Unfortunately I was quite a geek and nerd (I think “spaz” was the word they often used back then) and never had a real girlfriend or went on a date until my freshman year of college. I did have friends who were girls, but that’s not the same as a girlfriend.

Beyond that, I don’t think I was sheltered any more than anyone else of that era. I had access to my share of porn. I have no idea if it was more or less than other teens of the era had, but here’s a critical point: None of it was video. It was all printed material. “Penthouse” and so on. I understood that the penis goes into the vagina, but I knew NOTHING about the OP’s question.

In fact, he knows more than I did, because I did NOT know about the idea of thrusting. I started to have girlfriends and go on dates when I was in college, but was still a virgin when I married at 26, mostly because of the values that I had then and still have now.

Great Antibob uses this to show how young people are when they learn about sex, but to me it shows that over 50% of 23-year-olds are still virgins. And when I was young, the age was even higher. So I really felt no social pressure at all to cave on my values.

Well, that depends on exactly what we mean by “masturbation”. I read about masturbation when I was a teen, but wasn’t sure exactly what that meant. I had read here and there that masturbation is done by kids as young as five, but I also knew enough biology to be reasonably sure that ejaculation doesn’t occur until puberty. So I concluded that one can masturbate even without ejaculating. So I figured that if I deliberately read porn and get an erection, that counts as masturbating. Something there didn’t make sense, but I had no one to ask. (And to this day I wonder if “masturbation” might be defined differently for pre- and post-puberty people.)

Anyway, I was aware that erections felt good, and somehow I figured out that pressure on my penis felt even better, so I often read my porn lying in bed, face down, so the pressure would be supplied by my body and the bed. Going the next step – rubbing – never dawned on me. As I said above, printed pictures don’t teach that sort of thing. Looking back on it, I don’t know why I never figured it out from any of the stories or letters. My guess is that the information was there, but I didn’t understand it, and it went over my head.

I did get married at 26, to a wonderful woman who has put up with me for well over 30 years. We were more or less equally un-knowledgable about all this stuff. We tried to get Tab A into Slot B, but it just didn’t work. Knowledge of thrusting probably would have been the key, but we weren’t even aware of the concept, and I thought the problem was that I was aiming at the wrong angle. After a few months, some very helpful people connected us to a professional, And shortly after our first anniversary we figured out how to “do it”.

Before posting this, I seriously thought about getting a new login for this thread only. But besides being against the rules, I hope that using my regular login will help credibility.

Umbridge, you are asking good questions. I’m glad you are asking them, and I hope you don’t get too offended by people who don’t appreciate their good fortune to have learned these things earlier than you.

Some of the monkeys masturbate until they are ready, so that they can ejaculate straight away.

It may be that the human condition is that for practical reasons, the standing up position is not suitable for getting pregnant, so with humans orgasm endorphins ( sexual pleasure ) and ejaculation takes longer, and the male wants to ejaculate or else he can’t sleep and feels uncomfortable with arousal and full prostate, etc ,etc, so the sexual act is then extended in duration so that they would be lying down by the time of ejaculation, due to being physically tired and higher levels of endorphins, and because of that, “he” stays inside, like a plug, to keep more of the ejaculate in suitable place… and the ejaculate doesn’t run out due to gravity… so there’s a better chance of pregnancy from extending the time of the sex act.

I feel inferior if I can’t keep going for an hour. But don’t use as your measure.

You claim to be a US citizen but also claim to be living in a second-world country that you refuse to name, because it “might reveal too much.” (Frankly, this is hilarious, given what else you’ve voluntarily shared with us.) Something does not compute here.

That’s an oxymoron, to get a rythm you need multiple events.

I’m still trying to figure out what the hell does esquiar have to do with the rest.

Umbridge, I had my doubts about you, but you’re umkay!

Hmm. Learn something every day. Googled “esquiar sex”, got this from a Spanish language MB, posted by a moderator.

10 reasons why skiing is like sex:

1 - You’re always willing to fight through the soreness and give it another go.
2 - The beer and shower afterward are almost as good as the thing itself.
3 - You fantasize about it more than you actually do it.
4 - You can never get enough, yet you feel a vague sense of satiation when you’re done.
5 - You’ll tell any kind of lie just to be able to do it one time.
6 - There’s a lot of fancy gear available, but it’s fun even without it.
7 - You can’t do it as much as you used to.
8 - You can do it alone, but it’s much more fun in a group.
9 - You’re not nearly as good at it as you think.
10 - It’s the only thing you really use the Internet for.
Dunno why it’s in Inglés.
ETA: Upon reflection, when you’re going through moguls, there’s a lot of thrusting involved. Granted, it’s primarily of your lower legs, but still.

I’d like to see a bracket.

I’ve read stories like yours before, but I find it difficult to relate to. Do you think you have a normal sex drive? I figure most of these cases the guy has to be asexual or have a low libido, because one shouldn’t need to learn anything, no more than someone has to teach you how to scratch an itch. If I didn’t figure it out by the time I was 13 or 14 I would have died from spontaneous human combustion.

I’ve read funny stories about guys who were ignorant of how other people did it, but they still figured something out. Just their methods were peculiar.

It’d be more understandable if the OP were a woman.

I once knew a girl from a ranching family. She told all sorts of weird stories about horses, sometimes about how shamelessly perverted they are. Once they had to replace an old section of fence because one of the mares humped and grinded against it until it collapsed. I don’t think anyone taught her that. She figured it out.

As a “first world” man, I’ve had sex with many “second world” women and none of them were sheltered when it came to sex. They taught me things, and I miss that phase of my life. So, I’m pretty amazed at this lack of sexual knowledge being cultural, but the whole “second world” label is pretty broad, too.

:stuck_out_tongue:

Ok… I am a 29 year old American male… I was introduced to sex at an early age, my family never felt it was dirty or something taboo… Unfortunately many families are not the same way or are just in different circumstances… Sex simply put is an action taken for the purpose of reproduction. The most effective way is often through multiple rhythmic penetrations… The stimuli causes the male to quickly ejaculate and cause pregnancy… However humans are among some of the species that also engage in sexual conduct for the purpose of pleasure… That does not mean however if a man suffering from extreme premature ejaculation, ( as a 29 year old American, American Pie was extremely popular showcasing this), simply ejaculating on a woman’s labia in rare cases has caused pregnancy… Even rarer the pre-ejaculatant “pre-cum” can also… The multiple penitrations is not actually required however… Some women find it uncomfortable, or women with sensitive skin, it can cause heat rashes easily, or with low vaginal moisture… Therefore causing discomfort and making them less likely to want to engage in sex at all… Many women can not achieve orgasm without clitorial stimulation… Both males and females can achieve orgasm by a single insertion and a massage against the back wall of the vagina around the cervix… Still however slightly rhythmic, it would not make for much profit for commercialization in videos… Like anything, there is both a good and bad aspect of pornogrophy… Many parents use this as an excuse not to have discussions with their children, I’ve heard one say “what’s the point, there is nothing I can tell them they haven’t learned online.” I grew up around many women, discussions about menstration or other aspects where commonplace and not hushed… Unfortunately one aspect of pornography is to some the idea that the vagina is to be pristine, and that menstration is considered repulsive… Meanwhile degrading your partner for the purpose of sharing your sexual prowess with other males is concidered the norm… The other end of the spectrum rather helping to lift the vale of silence on the subject is in its own right a heaven send… But that does not mean that as a community when someone asks a question they should be ridiculed either directly or indirectly… Now another form which has been made possible by advances in the subject has allowed new methods… Unfortunately we have yet to take the time to form a new Kama Sutra… The use of stimulators “vibrators” for example have made it much easier for women and men to achieve orgasm… When the woman orgasms the abdomidals cause the inner vaginal walls to clamp down and release in a pulsing manner… In some women if clitorial stimulation is achieved in high enough extents they will achieve multiple orgasms in rapid succession creating a sensation for the male similar (but exceeding) to recieving oral sex… Keep in mind a woman can obtain an orgasm every 30 seconds… After a period of time speaking in tongue eventually becoming inebriated and comatose in a complete euphoric state for several hours… There was a civilization I studied once long ago that practiced ceremony’s in which this was the soul purpose to obtain leaving women in this state… There is also hypnosis and brainwashing (triggers or keys) technics that can cause immediate sexual arousal and if continued can easily cause orgasm by either party… Again unfortunately… Your not going to see much of that in pornogrophies either… Or they will be misconstrued and only shown in BDSM “bondage” films and then only portrayed in peoples minds as such… Hope this helped…

Multiple paragraphs are also good.

OMG! This is the best thread ever.

Are they biological or cultural?

I guess the OP has never heard os switching positions during sex, which usually involved disconnection and then reconnect. Also, it’s not so easy to stay continuously “connected” with all the various slippery fluids and movement of both parties. Slipping out for a few moments is very common.

I’m not sure. Do monkeys write in a single, slow paragraph?

One thing I do know; you have to make sure to take it out the same number of times you put it in.

I’m still looking for my horse and cart.

Meanwhile, back on planet earth. . .

On a more serious note, I do feel sympathy for the OP. She (he?) sounds very confused and lacking in basic knowledge.

(But maybe when he (she?) “obtains” an orgasm, all will be well. :smiley: Sorry, I just couldn’t remain in serious mode on this thread.)

No. Wrong.

The thrusting occurs PRIOR to ejaculation. And, generally, further thrusting after ejaculation feels unpleasant.

I haven’t read every single reply, so I don’t know whether anyone has addressed this question seriously (giving it the teensiest benefit of the doubt that it’s sincere at all), so here goes —

Umbridge, it’s not entirely clear what you mean by “multiple penetrations,” but if you mean, for lack of a better word, the “pumping” activity of human copulation, then —

It is not a learned (“social”) behavior. It’s instinctual.

It is intensely pleasurable to both parties, and, generally speaking, a man (at least) will not ejaculate without such motion, meaning that insemination, and, thus, pregnancy, is highly unlikely (although not impossible) absent such friction-creating activity.

(Once a man has grown out of adolescence, erection and ejaculation are not generally on a hair trigger.)

The latest scientific writings I have read regarding this strongly suggest that this has evolved in conditions in which women have multiple sex partners and that thrusting, in part, is an unconscious effort by the male to pull out the sperm of other men, thus giving his own speed a better chance of fertilizing the woman.

In other words, we have evolved to be non-monogamous in practice.