To arrest a guy for a mutual arrangement to have sex with another adult boggles my mind. From watching dateline, I believe that probably half of those guys arrested for trying to do a teen would not even be there if they could get sex legally. Yes the other half are twisted, but some are just looking for sex, period, and figure its easier to impress a 12 year old with their four inch wang than an adult.
Your location says Tampa, but I’m guessing you live in a suburb or something. I was in Tampa last summer and there was no shortage of strip clubs on Dale Mabry (sp?) Highway near the Buccaneers’ stadium. And there was definitely no six foot rule for the lap dances in the place I went into.
Why should we care, unless it’s #3? And if it is #3, that’s a good argument to legalize it.
At my internship, I was told about a previous interns incident. There were zoning laws about such establishments mandating minimum distances from schools and churches. Usually 500 or 1000 feet. Some folks who were unhappy about the fact that sex exists had called to complain about many of these places. So the intern was sent out with a measuring wheel to determine whether any parlor was within critical distance from a church or school. This was an all-day job and while he was out, his mom called. The receptionist should have been a little more explicit rather than simply saying, “Oh, he’s been out all day checking out all the massage parlors.”
Punchline: “. . . so they’ve got 30 days to move the church!”
I think that there are more than a couple in this town, but they are not so obvious. What is obvious here is the crack houses. I haven’t lived here that long, but I can drive down any street and point to at least 1 crackhouse (sometimes a house, sometimes a business).
I know of two bars here that run drugs from larger cities and maintain customers in this area. The police never have stopped at them that I know of. A friend of mine lives in an apartment overtop of a carryout that is run the same way. He says he has never seen a policeman there, but has caught several drug addicts hiding out in his outside covered stairway in the winter.
Of course, when I lived in the part of town that is a lot worse than the one I lived in now, you could watch out the window and see any number of prostitutes within an hour. You could see police stop and talk to them - but never saw one arrested. Those hookers were brave, also. They would knock on the door and ask for food/restroom service any time of the day.
On a side note, our local paper ran a three week mini-series article on the prostitution problem here. They even included a map to where you can find the most… :smack:
Brendon
Boy, tash, Carson’s a lot bigger than when I left if it takes twenty minutes to get to Moonlight from anywhere in town.
I lived on Deer Run, just a couple minutes away. I never partook of the pleasures there or at its rivals across the road, but I would tool by with visitors to show them “a real cathouse.” They were invariably disappointed.
I found in the library a guide to Nevada bordellos. The entry for the Sagebrush, one of those rivals across the road, was short and sweet: “It’s the McDonalds of sex: It’s fast, cheap, and you know what you’re gonna get.”
- There are only so many cops, and lots of crimes out there, so they have to set priorities. Cops ultimately work for the voters, and voters complain more about muggings, home burglaries, vandalism, etc. than about a discrete massage parlor located in a commercial (non-residential) neighborhood.
Unlike speeding 5mph over and not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign?
Now you’re talking about traffic stops which are a different beast. If you’ve ever watched Cops, you know that oftentimes people who are committing more serious crimes get caught because of more mundane, routine traffic stops (expired registration, “illegal lane change”, etc.)
Since the arresting officers’ department receives a portion of the fine, such minor traffic violations are a big money maker for most police departments.
But there is seldom any corresponding money from busting a local cathouse. In fact, they will probably go out of business, leaving the building boarded up, and thus diminishing the property tax income to the city.
You think slavery is over?? Ok. Sure. :rolleyes:
I don’t know but it just grieves me to know that there are people out there who are exploited and abused. Individuals who need real help whether is be with drug addiction, abuse, children they are having a hard time supporting or all of the above and more. It is so sad that someone would have such a low opinion of another human being as to exploit them in a way such as prostitution.
Oh, and I have a live and let live policy except when another person is being hurt. That happens in prostitution even though most people would prefer to turn a blind eye to it. After all, those women are sluts and get what they deserve, right? What a pathetic attitude.
I have never understood how faked arousal could be such a turn on except to the most cold and heartless. But then again, they are probably the ones supporting prostitution.
Oh and before anyone says “I bet you would never go and help someone like that”. I have. I think the term “soul wrenching” applies to that experience.
Dude, you are way off base. Police departments never rely on traffic tickets for revenue. Never happens. Ever. 
My point with that, was that the U.S. has had laws that were later reversed because it was determined that they were not great laws. I was insinuating that legalizing prostitution could be beneficial. Would people still be exploited to the same degree if prostitution were legal? Certainly there would still be some issues involved with some of the women’s self esteem issues etc, but there wouldn’t be as many pimps beating women. There would be “sex businesses”. I’m not saying that this is a perfect solution, nor am I ignoring the fact that some people are being basically enslaved by pimps, drug addictions, and other issues.
Do you disagree with my viewpoint? What would you suggest be done?
Yes I do disagree as it is more than just self esteem issues we are dealing with. And yes the exploitation would be the same…take a look at the Netherlands. The slaves are extremely hard to reach in that country (I know that contradicts what is thought, but it is true) Would the beatings be the same? Yes It would not get better, just harder to deal with. It would go to the level of domestic violence and we all know how “wonderful” the cops are with dealing with that one. Right now, at least some are rescued through sting operations and organizations that deal in that sort of thing. These women need help, love and support, not for their abuse to become legal.
What do I suggest should be done? Well, I could give you my perfect world senerio, but we don’t live in a perfect world. I don’t have an easy answer. There are no easy answers. But if it was legalized, the problems would only get worse, not better.
Ah, my mistake. Sadly, ‘worth’ was the key word in hypno-toad’s post.
Um, ok. Sorry to break it to you, but not everything is as it seems to you. I’m not going to doubt your experience with prostitutes, nor am I going to say that a large number of them could benefit from getting out of the “industry”.
Other than that, you have not said anything of much substance. I haven’t said that much either, but you are refuting me, lets see some proof, anecdotal at least.
I know a guy that went to Amsterdam. He availed a prostitute of her services, and the next day they were both happy. She even cooked him breakfast. They were both HAPPY with the outcome of the transaction.
No sane person would ever say that there aren’t people involved in the sex industry that would not be there under other circumstances. The same can be said about many trades, this one is much more seedy though.
You are sadly delusional. Many of us here would agree with your sentiments, but you have not shown anything in the way of factual information, and your arguments are without factual basis.
The abuse would get harder to deal with? How? Why? I’m more than willing to listen to informed opinions on this subject.
Do you have any info that supports that people were "rescued through sting operations and organizations that deal in that sort of thing. "? I have been led to believe that recidivism is rampant in the field of prostitution.
"These women need help, love and support, not for their abuse to become legal. " I agree with the first part of this completely. If it is made legal would the abuse continue? If so, please explain how.
I read this yesterday and thought the same thing, why would the police bother old women and their pets? 
Well, there are examples like this, and this, and this, but they usually involve LOTS of cats and mentally ill people.
I live on Airport, and it takes about 15 minutes to get to Mound House, where the Bunny Ranch is located, from where I live, due to traffic, lowered speed limits, and some retarded traffic lights. Not sure when you moved, but Carson’s getting bigger and bigger by the day. I blame Sacramento. 
No offense, but I’m gonna call bullshit on that one. It’s one thing to speculate about something that hasn’t happened yet (IE, legalizing all drugs in the U.S.), but we have perfectly valid examples worldwide of how things go when prostitution is legalized, and generally it winds up being better for most prostitutes. Seriously. Everyone should go to a legal bordello, if they offer tours like the ones out here do, and have a chat with the girls. They’re some of the strongest, most empowered women I know - because they get to set their own price. They know their own worth. They’re literally some of the highest paid women on the planet. I have to say that if I had the looks, I’d probably be right there with them - the idea that I could get away with charging a guy a thou an hour for my vagina would definitely empower me, to say the least.
You’re always going to have people in the world who are getting screwed over by someone over them, but not in legal, government-regulated brothels (haha, no pun intended).
~Tasha