Are there any Sith left after Return of the Jedi?

But her Mother’s operation is a numbers running racket out of the back of a delicatessian!

No, she said it was a midichlorian transplant.

But she only needs it once. :slight_smile:

Part of the training to be a Jedi is to create your own lightsaber.

Darth Vader even points this out. “I see you have constructed a new lightsaber. Your training is now complete.”

OH!

The other group of 20-year-old-hookers-in-black-leatherette-Girl-Scout-uniforms!

Oh. That’s alright, then.

Can I tack a question on here (besides this one) ? Why does everyone say that there are only two Sith ? I’m assuming there’s a reference somewhere that I’ve missed. The only thing I recall that’s similar is from Ep. I where Yoda says “Always two there are, no more no less.”, which I thought referred to the Sith master/apprentice relationship, not to the total number of Sith in the galaxy.

Thanks.

Quick Star Wars history lesson:

The Sith used to be an ancient race. Back in the old days, when some of the frist Jedi started to learn the dark side and defected, they were chased away and fled to the Sith homeworld, a species that had a natural affinity for the force, or something. The Dark Jedi proclaimed themselves lords over these Sith (see? Sith Lords) and commanded them into battle against the Jedi. Eventually, after many many years of battle and so forth, the Sith species was erradicated, but the Sith Lords remained, though there were several. At some point, on of the Sith Lords made a decree that there shall only be two, master and apprentice, to avoid as much internal conflict as possible, and it was pretty much encouraged for the apprectice to eventually turn against the master and become the new master, as it was the best way to gain power, altough the current master would certainly want them to do this as late as possible.

It should also be noted that there are plenty (in theory) Dark Jedi who are not Sith. it’s fairly easy to become a Dark Jedi, just start killing innocent people, using the Jedi mind trick to get free soda, and so forth. yet only two are the Sith, almsot always the most powerful Dark jedi, and I imagine that the normal jedi spend some time tracking down and eliminating the non-Sith Dark Jedi.

Thanks for the quick reply!

I follow what you’re saying (and part of my confusion was remembering EU stories that inluded several pre-dark jedi Sith lords), but, and I’m not trying to be rude or even confrontational, where does your info come from? I’ve read most of the Dark Horse comics and a smattering of the novels, but I don’t remember this anywhere (which isn’t to say that I couldn’t have read it and promptly forgotten it). Since it seems to be accepted by nearly everyone, I’m guessing it’s in some published work, but I was hoping to narrow it down more than that.

Yes, I apologize in advance, but is this a Lucas thing or a fanfic thing?

Despicable!

Luke was almost a full Jedi at the end of TESB. His second-to-last trial was constructing his own sabre, and his last was to confront Vader. One gets the impression that constructing your own lightsabre is a standard trial, but that the last trial is a much more personal matter which varies from one Jedi to another.

Using a lightsabre doesn’t require the Force at all. They’re turned on by a switch. There are some, apparently, with the switch entirely enclosed as a safety measure, so that they can only be turned on or off by the Force, but the switch itself is still a normal physical switch. The Force is generally used in the construction of a lightsabre, but that’s just because it’s a very intricate and exacting process, and a Force-free human would be very likely to screw it up. It’s like podracing: There’s no reason an ordinary human can’t do it, it’s just so difficult that one doesn’t expect it to happen except with a Force-sensitive.

Of course, while anyone can use a lightsabre (withness Han cutting open the tauntaun), it generally takes the Force to use it to full effect. Even General Grievous, who has a great deal of skill with them, can’t do any of the nifty things like blocking blaster bolts (which requires precognitive reflexes), and Obi-Wan is able to block all four of his sabres at once with his one.

Well, I think I just learned that from another thread about Star Wars and the Sith :stuck_out_tongue: . Actually, now that I think about it, there mgiht have been something like that in Knights of the Old Republic. That game takes place four thousand years before the events in Ep IV, and even by then the Sith species is gone, but i think there are some history lessosn in there as well (there’s a part where you go to a Dark Jedi academy.)

Where you learn to do what, put slugs in Coke machines and jimmy ATMs open?

:slight_smile:

Dark Jedi Academy Freshman Syllabus:

Evil Cackles 101
The Dark Side and Bad Hygiene – Myth or Reality? (discussion group)
Taunting 101
Killing Your Master – When to Make Your Move
Introduction to Taking Over the Galaxy
Phys Ed – Whack-a-Jedi

It’s in my Official History of the Star Wars Universe book, too.

At one point there were many MANY Sith Lords but there was also continual Sity Civil War.

So eventually it got down to just two and the master decreed that was quite enough of that so henceforth there would only be two.

No, because the Sith are fairly powerful, and everyone knows Re-Sith-tance is futile.

Why don’t we see any female Sith, though? Don’t you think they’d form a dark Sith-terhood?

OK, regarding lightsabers: I got my little brother’s “Star Wars Visual Dictionary” out, because I remembered seeing a picture of a cut-away light saber in there. Here is what it has to say about them.

“Lightsaber designs often relate to personal histories. Darth Vader’s lightsaber looks much like the one he used as a Jedi learner, only much darker. Luke Skywalker’s lightsaber, on the other hand, follows the type used by Luke’s mentor Ben Kenobi.”

“Lightsabers tend to follow a similar basic structure, although many are very individualized by their Jedi builders. While the pure energy blade has no mass, the electromagnetically generated arc wave creates a strong gyroscopic effect that makes the lightsaber a distinct challenge to handle. Operating on the complex principle of tightly controlled arc-wave energy, it requires focusing elements made from naturally occuring crystals that cannot be synthesized. A lightsaber must be built by hand, as there is no exact formula for the crucial allignment of the irregular crystals. The slightest misalignment will cause the weapon to detonate on activation.”

“The legendary lightsaber is the ancient traditional weapon of the Jedi Knight, guardians of justice for so many generations. Building a working lightsaber is one of the threshhold tests for Jedi initiates: accomplishing the impossibly fine alignment task proves their Force sensitivity.”

So you have to be a Jedi to build a lightsaber, and it is probably pretty hard to use one if you aren’t.

This is just wrong.

I misread the thread title as “Are there any Jedi left after ‘Revenge of the Sith’?” So let me ask that question: Are Obi Wan and Yoda truly the only surviving Jedi or are there other scattered survivors for Darth Vader to hunt down in the years ahead?

They do risk their lives to go back to the temple and re-program the emergency beacon to warn Jedi that the temple is in enemy hands. One assumes that there must be someone out there to hear it. That’s just based off the movies. In the EU, it seems you can’t go five steps without tripping over a long-lost Jedi in hiding.

Also, I understand Lucas is talking about doing a TV show about what happens in the SW universe between Episodes III and IV that will feature Jedis trying to hide or fight back against the new Imperial forces.

Yeah, tell me about it. I missed a line near the beginning.

Whack-a-Mole shudders with visions of Ewok Adventures turning into “The Jar Jar Binks Variety Hour”.