Personally I would say YES, based on my own experiences and the experiences of people I trust, however, I’m not 100% sure.
I think the reason why ET presence isn’t visible enough for it to be proven is because since all the star systems are light-years away, physical travel to Earth is infrequent, and probably only comes from a few nearby stellar systems (such as the Greys’ alleged home star system Zeta Reticuli).
These entities visit infrequently and in such small numbers that it’s highly unlikely that the average person will ever encounter one in their lifetime. If you find that hard to believe, have you ever seen a bobcat in the wild? I don’t think I have. And we know bobcats exist.
Most likely, the bulk of ET visitors to our planet do not come here physically, either coming here metaphysically or through some exotic form of faster-than-light travel that probably wouldn’t leave any physical evidence for us to pick up.
This is my solution to ‘Fermi’s Paradox’ of ‘where are they?’
Could you please give us the details of any of these experiences? To be honest I cannot think of any experience I have ever heard of from a reliable source that would lead me to conclude that the most logical explanation was interaction with intelligent extra-terrestrials.
As a child I had very vivid dreams of being abducted by Greys. Not the stereotypical anal probe type thing, just general harassment. I lived close to an air force base which has many of America’s nukes on its property.
I later learned my grandma and aunt have also both had contact with ETs. The ones my grandma is in touch with are positive minded, the ones my aunt are in touch with, I am not sure. But multiple people in my family have seen spaceships.
Many people in the air force believe in the UFO phenomenon. Multiple governments have admitted something is going on.
In fact, I believe the only reason most people don’t believe in UFOs is because the mainstream media tells us they aren’t real, and most people haven’t seen them, so hence, most people think they aren’t real.
if a ‘reliable source’ means an American newspaper or network, you’re not going to hear about UFOs being real until it’s no longer possible to keep it ‘secret’.
I would say that there is zero actual evidence that there are ETs on earth, which sort of makes your assertion that you are nearly 100% sure seem…well, a bit off the mark.
Actually yes…several times. But I don’t know what this proves one way or the other.
And you base this assertion on what, exactly? I have a picture of a bobcat walking on my folks property. Again, this proves nothing more than that there are bobcats in my area. I’ve seen coyotes as well, something that few people living in, say, Chicago most likely see on a regular basis. On the other hand, there aren’t many platypus roaming about in my neck of the woods, so it would be astounding if I saw one of those on my folks property.
Again, this is proof of nothing one way or the other, least of all that aliens are or aren’t visiting the earth.
The same rationale could be used to say that unicorns or ghosts or elves visit the earth in non-physical form. If there is no proof then there is no proof, and trying to handwave this fact away by saying in effect that the reason there is no proof is because it’s all magic really saying nothing and proves less.
I have no doubt that there is life out in the universe besides us. In fact, I’m pretty certain we’ll find life in this solar system, once we get off our collective asses and go out and start really looking. I would even go so far as to being fairly sure there is intelligent life out there, and that it’s remotely possible we might actually find some of it some day. But the distances between the stars are literally astronomical, and space is so inconceivably vast that the odds of just picking up some random signal are huge. Contrary to popular belief radio signals don’t just continue forever from their source…they decay to background noise. Even if they didn’t, consider how many stars are within, say, 100 light years of the earth. Then consider the odds that one of those stars would just happen to have not only life, not just intelligent life, but intelligent life that just happened to send out a signal that would remain intact in the small window that humans have had the technology to listen for the signal (and the further luck that we’d happen to be listening on that particular frequency at that particular time and recognize the signal as something intelligent coming in from outside the earth)…well, I’m not sure what the odds would be, but my WAG is rolling a 6 millions of times in a row would probably be easier.
As a child, I had very vivid and frequent dreams of flying. Strange, my Mom never noticed my bed being empty at the time. Obviously she was in on the conspiracy; there’s no other logical explanation.
Maybe Mom was an alien. That makes me… :eek: I’ve been found out!
Why is it so easy for people to believe in miracles, angels, the Devil, and so on … but so hard to believe there is other life in the Universe that might have visited us at some point?
I don’t believe in miracles, angels or the Devil for the same reason I don’t believe in alien visitations. The reason I don’t believe aliens have visited us (or in those other things) is that there is zero proof that they have done so. The burden of proof that aliens have visited the Earth is on those making the claims…and extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs.
Here’s the thing. If aliens (intelligent aliens that is) DID come to the Earth it would be a big deal. It would be unimaginably hard to make such a trip.
but it’s not an extraordinary claim. what is ‘extraordinary’ anyway? that’s totally subjective.
yes, with our current technology, it would be extremely hard to get here, but who knows what some other races have come up with? we still don’t know if there’s a way to bypass the speed of light rule or not - people who assume it’s impossible are the same as people in 1800 said we would never get to the moon. at the time it made sense, but we have evolved.
…because the idea of God is so deeply a part of our culture, we’ve been told by authority figures since our childhoods, and because the idea is do damn comforting…
It is an extraordinary claim because there is no conceivable way known to humanity to actually make such a journey to another star. It’s almost inconceivably difficult for us to even make a trip to one of the other PLANTS in this solar system, let alone to another star. And it’s an extraordinary claim because there is NO PROOF…none, zero, zippo. Nada. Nothing.
No…with our current technology and with any conceivable technology available to us in the near future it’s TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE. We literally can’t do it. We can’t even get to the nearest star to us, let alone travel 10’s or 100’s or 1000’s or 10’s of thousands of light years to where the next inhabited planet might be.
There is no conceivable technology that is known today by us that could get us to another star. In 1800 they at least knew about rockets and so while traveling to the moon would have been impossible to them it was at least something they could conceive of. It would be more like talking to someone living in the stone age and asking them how they would get to the moon, if you want an analogue…even then, it might be better to use asking a spider monkey how it would get to the moon.
Even if it’s theoretically possible, it’s still so far beyond our current technology that it’s in the realm of pure fantasy or science fiction…which means that it’s an extraordinary claim, that requires extraordinary proof. Which there is none. There isn’t even ordinary proof…just anecdotes and fantasy.
You can, of course, believe what you like. Billions of people believe in God or some sort of divinity. I have no problem, even if I’m not a believer. If they want me to believe, however, I tell them the same things…extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs. Anecdotes and speculation won’t cut it…I require more.
Our technology has progressed (which is what I think you meant…not that we evolved). And continues to progress. I’m hopeful that sometime within my lifetime humans will journey to Mars and physically and directly explore more of our own solar system. It will be an incredibly dangerous and expensive series of journeys, but I HOPE we make them while I’m still about. But going to another star is so far outside of what we could do that it’s still pure fantasy at this time…and that isn’t going to change in my lifetime.
Could another species, thousands or 10’s of thousands or millions of years in advance of us make the trip? Sure, it’s possible. But there is no proof that they have done so, and until there IS proof I think the base line working assumption has to be that they haven’t. I keep an open mind, and it would be seriously cool if they did make such a trip and if there is some sort of concrete proof that they did…but, as with unicorns or invisible pink dragons in someones garage, it’s not something to take seriously until there is proof.
Great point. I actually think SOME of them come from Earth.
As for traveling to here from say, Z. Reticuli, 40 light years away … for a long-lived race of ETs, it wouldn’t be impossible at all. Difficult yes. But if they accelerated to say 25% of the speed of light (which would take enormous energy but definitely isn’t impossible), it would take 160 years, and if they live say, 1000 years, that’s very do-able.
I DO think the reason we don’t see them everywhere is because interstellar travel is so difficult.
And there are quite a few rational people who don’t believe in any of these things, including ETs. Oh sure, odds are pretty great that we’re not the only life in the Universe . . . but there’s absolutely zero evidence that we’ve been visited.
