Everybody knows aliens exist in the dimensions that string theory has shown us are hidden. Therefore they’re here but we don’t know about it, 'cause we haven’t finshed working on string theory.
Once we figure out how to “see” the extra dimensions in string theory, it’ll be obvious to us where they’re hiding.
Now that the LHC is soon gonna be exposing those extra dimensions aliens will be popping out amongst us left and right
I’m with you up to here.
Just because they can travel fast and far, it doesn’t logically follow that all of their skills are equally as advanced. Maybe it’s a stretch for them to get here, and they shot their wad for that. It doesn’t follow that they can make themselves invisible just because they can built genormous rockets or they live a long time.
Just a nitpick…I’m sure we agree on the overall concept of non-presence of ET or the likelihood of their arrival.
I’m not so sure we can assume this. Just because our own space travel has been technological does not rule out the possibility that beings on other planets might not have abilities or resources available to them naturally that would enable some sort of space travel. I’m not arguing that they do (although the OP, with his talk of "coming here metaphysically, seems to be considering the possibility); but if I were writing science fiction in which Earth was visited by extra-terrestrial beings, I’d at least consider using some such non-technological means for them to have gotten here.
While their technological progress (or innate abilities, whatever) don’t necessarily have to be uniformly greater than ours in all regards, just the ability to travel across interstellar distances, however achieved, would give them the ability to hide extremely well. They must have something equivalent to very good telescopes, to know which worlds are interesting enough to explore in the first place, and if they can do interstellar travel, they can do interplanetary travel. So set up shop on the Moon, and watch us from there. If they want samples to analyze in a lab, then land in the middle of the ocean, or on Antarctica, or in the middle of the Gobi Desert, or someplace likewise sparsely populated by humans. If even that’s too risky, do it at night, and under heavy cloud cover. If they want to infiltrate our society, they can learn enough of what we look like and how we act from our radio transmissions and the samples they collect from the middle of nowhere to blend in easily.
No mystery there. We like to believe that there is something larger than ourselves and what we know of as “reality”. In a sense it is that same irrational belief in things that we cannot see that pushes us to explore beyond the boundaries of what we know.
One cynical answer to why there are no interstellar civilizations is that any civilization that has advanced to the level where they could travel to another star system has also long advanced beyond the level where they could destroy themselves.
Must be from the Nutsack Nebula.
I have read Michael Crichton’s The Andromeda Strain twice. Wonderful piece of fiction, with a small grain of fact mixed in. In it, it is theorized that we are more likely to be visited by single-celled extraterrestrial lifeforms, rather than advanced multicellular organisms. So as to the question of extraterrestrial entities on Earth, yes. but it’s likely that they are bacteria of some kind.
It’s a pretty safe bet that we aren’t getting visited by extraterrestrial microbes, either. If they could survive in any Earthly environment at all, then they’d end up establishing colonies, which we would eventually find. And if we ever found such a thing, we’d recognize it by its different genetic code. But of all the organisms we’ve found on all the broad reaches of the Earth, every single one of them has used the same genetic code.
I have no way of knowing that ETs would differ significantly from human beings. Nor do I have any way of knowing that they wouldn’t. I doubt you have any more first hand knowledge on this subject than I.
Yep. Just now, in fact. For real.
Check out the extreme variety evolution has produced on Earth, including species successful but long extinct. What are the chances that on another planet with no connection to ours or even our Solar system, evolution would proceed in exactly the same manner and produce exactly the same end result – Homo Sapiens? None.
Since we are speculating, there is no reason to assume they would look entirely bizarre either though. There are a certain number of basic characteristics of known intelligent life that ought to apply to a race that can produce technology of that level.
Bilateral or radial symmetry.
At least one single, pair, or set of dedicated manipulators not used for primary locomotion.
It should incorporate most of our senses in some manner.
If our understanding of brain ratios is a constant, it will be at least 35 or 40 pounds in weight.
Granted that still could leave us with a giant starfish with it’s eyes on it’s arms that communicates by color, and navigates by magnetic sense while whirling like a ballerina to locomote. The point though, is that we should be able to recognize an intelligent lifeform fairly easily if they are technology producers.
Sure, on this planet. If all life came from the first single cell or molecule, that’s exactly what you would expect. If all life on Earth came from the same environment (within limits), it’s also what you would expect.
But we don’t know what other environments life may have arisen under. Given the uncertainty, all bets are off. Bilateral symmetry? Is that some kind of universal constant, like the speed of light? Our senses? The ones that can’t detect radio waves or ultraviolet light? Would those be useless to all life forms just because you don’t have them?
It’s been suggested that other life might be silicon based, not carbon based. Would silicon evolution parallel carbon? And if so, why?
Since, until we find another life form, we have zero knowledge in this area, it’s pure speculation.
If you look into it, though, the organic-molecule analogues that use silicon as a base instead of carbon require much higher temperatures to be active. A silicon-based lifeform on Earth would be frozen into immobility.
I see there is a explanation of ET’s that could be equally stated as angels and how one could be taken as the other. We look to the past and see potential evidence of ancient aliens interacting with early man, and we see writings of angels interacting with early man. A major difference is if the society needed a physical explanation or a spiritual explanation of these beings.
Through my own personal life’s journey, I have come to the conclusion that the universe is teeming with life, planets are just the beginning, it’s so much more then that. The stars and galaxy’s are alive, living beings created by God. The planets are actually the wombs and playpens (with the stars being the hearts) of these being’s and we on earth are her children (or child).
Interstellar travel is possible and will be given to us when we are ready, pesty things like the law of conservation of energy will be struck down (actually it has already been) as it no longer will serve us as we evolve further spiritually.
We are suppose to travel to other societies and explore wonders that God has for us but…
We have this issue here with Satan, who does not want us to get to that point. Instead of technologies being freely given, we have to work hard for them, which slows it down a lot and our contact with other races is very limited. But…
God wants us to have certain things, and allows some of the good things to get through this blockade that Satan has set up around the earth, and eventually Satan will be cast out and things will continue with great joy throughout the universe for the freed children of the earth.
You are missing my point.
We have knowledge of life on one planet, ours. It is reasonable to extrapolate some basics based upon our own life.
Since an organism must manipulate matter to create technology, it must have a method for doing so. It is a reasonable argument that such manipulators must also be very dextrous, and thus are most likely dedicated to that purpose.
Likewise it must be able to perceive the changes in material, and thus must have some analogue of “sight” for doing so. It doesn’t matter if they see in ultraviolet, or use echolocation, or some other sense to do so, it is an analogue. The same goes for communication and hearing. If they can produce and receive radio waves that is the same thing as our speech and ears. They have to communicate somehow.
By no means am I stating that the only life we will find will be directly comparable to our own biology. It most likely will be very different, but the requirements for sentience, civilization, and technology are more specific than those needed for life.
I don’t think so. One example isn’t a trend; it’s an isolated case. What evidence do you have that life evolving anywhere else has the slightest similarity to ours? Show the answer to that before extrapolating, or you are just making it all up.
Now if we had TWO cases, you might have a point. Two, totally separate evolutions could be compared to see what they have in common. Even then, it might be a coincidence, not biology, chemistry or physics. A third example would be extremely valuable and help to settle those questions.
One word: spacesuits.
In this galaxy.
So basically, what you’re saying is something we’ve known all along. We are still children, and we have to grow up first be fore we can travel freely through out the universe.
We are suppose to be small children, that is not the reason we are not traveling between the stars. It’s because we are born here on earth, much like being born in a non-free society where the government keeps the people ignorant and closed off from the rest of the world, Satan tries to keep us that way and prevents us from exploring our inheritance. Children of other stars are freely vacationing on other worlds all the time. We should be learning about other cultures of other star systems, instead we are simply kept in the dark about these wonders.
