Trump is like Clint Eastwood in The Unforgiven. He’s a murderous low life scum, but he’s the only guy we have to stop liberals from destroying this country.
PS - This is an analogy, and in no way, would I advocate violence of any sort. I believe hearts and minds can be changed with respectful debate.
I mean the part about a hypothetical Democratic pugilist. If you mean people in general would love that person, sure some might. I simply meant that part was too general. I don’t know what norms or rules you meant specifically.
This is very near to what I’ve said to for years, but not just about people of specific parties in the U.S. Frankly, I usually say it to myself about the rest of the world, such as “Iranians are no different than you or me. They just want to earn a living so they can eat well, raise a family, go to the movies now and again and just lead a normal, quite life.” And it’s not just Democrats that do the lecturing, or dislike it when the other side does it. We agree, sort of, but you can’t just limit it to the Democrats. I would grant you Democrats probably call the Republicans “stupid” more, and Republicans call the Democrats “immoral” more. But whatever the case, no side has a monopoly on such behavior.
Apparently, 80% of the American public is fed up with political correctness.. That’s an astounding number. It kills me that the “progressive activist” cohort, through their need to virtue-signal and woke-shame, has turned off so many centrists, who otherwise support a progressive agenda, from the Democratic Party. There is no greater threat to the progressive agenda than progressives themselves. I consider myself a progressive, but I don’t want to attend the parties.
I disagree with that wholeheartedly as far as the term “PC” goes. To the extent that they are a real thing, I am not the biggest fan of their “need to virtue-signal and woke-shame”*, but I don’t think “political correctness” is a good term for that phenomenon, which the vast majority of the time is simply asking people to be polite.
*Which are loaded snarl words of their own, but slightly more indicative of what is going on than “PC”.
Here’s all you have to remember about Trump supporters in four easy words.
“They all do that.”
That’s the magic answer to any allegation that Trump is lying, cheating, vengeful, greedy, narcissistic or anything else. They all do that. And since they all do it, we might as well vote for the one we like, right?
As to whether America’s a meritocracy, well, Trump’s rich, isn’t he? What other “merit” counts?
“Political correctness gone mad!” is such a weird phenomenon because people get so upset about it, and yet almost every time there is no truth to it. It’s the moral panic of our time.
Jordan Peterson becomes famous on the back of a claim that he would be arrested if he didn’t use new gender terms in his speech – Yeah, bullshit
You’re not allowed to say Merry Christmas any more! – Yeah you are
They’re renaming Christmas to Winterval now – A recurring, and untrue, story in the UK
You can’t call Mexicans rapists – …Well you can call them that, but you would be considered a bigot for doing so
…and on and on. So if the claim is that Trump is popular with some quarters for being perceived as fighting against tyrannical PC overreach…yeah, could be. It doesn’t make the fear and action of voting for trump rational.
I agree that political correctness is not a great term, and the authors of the study do quite a bit of interviewing to suss out the respondents’ understanding of it. There was a pretty large consensus that the aversion to “political correctness” was not to the idea of being polite to minorities or referring to people with their preferred label, but rather to being looked down upon and judged as being ignorant. It doesn’t help that the messaging comes from academic elites and is often aimed at the middle class. Sometimes I’ll hate-watch Fox (though I find it nearly impossible to stomach now), and Brit Hume has a segment called Campus Craziness wherein he chronicles the latest idiotic thing some liberal students did/said. I just cringe at the propaganda gold that the activists serve up to the right on a nightly basis.
The red part shows the pink part to be false. There is nothing respectful about demonizing your opposition in that way.
capable, yes. willing to, no
If you think that almost all progressives look down on you – or your relatives, or your town – wanting to own the libs is a next step hard to avoid.
Now, it is in the nature of the personality of most politicians (not DJT!) to like most people. The reason the Trumpists endlessly repeat Hillary’s one word one-time out-of-context gaffe (“deplorables”) is that that top Democratic politicians don’t talk that way. If they did, it would hurt them.
As shown by threads like this, the typical politician-type personality is not universal.
As for the alleged low character of Trump voters, there’s one I know who, much more than the average person, and in a emotionally intelligent way, jumps to help people he passes by and sees are in distress – regardless of skin color. You can say it’s inconsistent for good generous people to support a man like Donald Trump. But many are inconsistent that way.
I’m all for attacking the views, and even the personality, of Donald Trump. But I don’t think it’s helpful to take a guilt-by-association approach to his supporters.
I await the black Republican presidential nominee. Not with held breath.
The one who wins the Primary, you dig? Come on Republicans, YOU CAN DO IT!
It’s the most hypocritical moral panic of our time.
The president thinks that football players who kneel during the NA are hateful SOBs who should have their American citizenship revoked. He has convinced his supporters that the act of kneeling is a sign of disrespect–one that shits not only the NA and the flag, but also the military and law enforcement and baby Jesus. Mind you, he shits on these institutions all the time and his supporters just laugh. But if you’re a black football player exercising your first amendment rights, you deserve to be punished.
The obsession over wokeness on the left can be tiresome sometimes, but at least it isn’t horrifically insane.
I wonder who’s looking down on me. Must be someone. I have an intuition.
Damn it. I got to go “own” somebody now.
I guess I’ll go eat worms. And vote fascist.
Trump?
I should mention that, as can be googled, China has a significant drug problem, but Trump’s prevarication isn’t my point here.
It’s speculative that Trump admires avowed fascists (are there even any still around?). It’s definite that he admires avowed communists like Xi and Kim. You might say that those are fascist-like communists, but, well, after the idealists are shot, this is what communism is. And Trump is soft on it.
I’m terribly curious about what liberals want to do that will lead to your country’s destruction.
Lose the murderous lowlife scum and we’ll talk. We’ll even let you have Pence. I miss those religious old school Republicans that keep their underpants on in the shower.
Xoh please
Maybe this deserves another thread but here 'tis.
EDUCATED FOOLS: What Democratic leaders still misunderstand about the politics of social class
Forget Trampkins as immoral morons. Educated, corporate Dems have shat upon them; they react appropriately. It didn’t help that “liberal” mainstream media gave Tramp billions of free airtime to spread his message. He grabbed many more eyeballs to be sold to advertisers; he has greatly enriched the media. Follow the money, eh?
It is nice to see one of you Trumpists finally admit that what you really want is fascism.