Thay accused him of Lesbianism…?
Sheesh… I quit!
Why would Rove make four trips to the Grand Jury? If they were after him he wouldn’t be so cooperative. They’re after someone else, someone bigger. It just has to be Cheney. You don’t use trout for bait unless you’re trying to catch something bigger than a trout.
As far as Bush being indicted, I now side with those that say no way. The Department of Justice has a lengthy document that dispels that notion. But he could get the Nixonian mantle of unindicted co-conspirator.
To anyone thinking a sitting vice-president can’t be indicted, see here:
Vice president Spiro T. Agnew:
Want to up the bet, then, since “it just has to be Cheney”? 
Nah, that’s too high. I’ll go 5:1.
You’re talking to a guy that plays the 50 cent roulette chips- I think my wager is at my threshold of big time gambling.
A beer, then? Straight up, one good beer, draft, at the tavern or restaurant of your choice. I’m in Shy and Madison a couple times a year–I’ll swing up and collect next time I’m in the neighborhood.
Hmm, that’s more likely than I’d consider at this point. Libby, sure – 2:1 or better. Cheney seems like a much much longer shot than 5:1.
Then it will have to be…
Harriet.
Screw the Supreme Court appointment. She’ll be in seventh heaven working for the most brilliant man she’s ever met.
They’d been circulating for a long time, actually. The man he allegedly had a relationship with (Senator-and-really-briefly-VP William Rufus King) was dead by the time Buchanan became President.
I think this is going to make Krakatoa look like a popgun. From Chris Matthews:
I like Chris Matthews, he’s generally above board and fair. You can sense that he thinks this is the real deal. This is going to be huge. This will bring down the administration and the Republican Party. Patrick Fitzgerald is going to deserve his face on our currency when this is over.
Oh, please.
The administration? Possible though I have doubts. The Republican Party?? :dubious: Just out of curiosity, lets say the it DID somehow bring down the whole Republican Party (frankly I still have never seen whats so exciting about this issue, but what the hell…maybe I’m missing something profound here). What do you think would replace the Republican Party if it was completely brought down? Or do you think (fantasize? 
) that we’d become a one party state then with only the Democrats left?
Just curious.
-XT
Just wait and see. Bush is not only going to be a lame duck, he will be entirely de-feathered. Cheney is toast and I bet that he takes Bush down with him. You can see the rift between Bush and Cheney in that Bush had an aided tell him about the choice of Meiers. I don’t think either trusts the other, nor should he.
Also, FWIW…
According to A Tom DeFrank piece in the Daily News, Rove told Bush two years ago that he outed Plame, and Bush has been pissed at him ever since.
Read about it at
Yes, it looks odds-on for Cheney to have to choose either resignation or impeachment, along with Libby and maybe a few others. But the entire party? Yeah, Bob, come on. It’s followers can always use the few-bad-apples approach to reasoning and keep voting for their principles.
This may not even be a good thing, not altogether. Bush is not capable of running the administration even minimally without Cheney and the help of several others, and he’s certainly not capable of exerting true leadership. If the power grab among the remaining unindicted staffers gets protracted and bloody enough, there’s a possibility of worse damage to the coountry than simply waiting out the next 3 years. It’d be worth finding out, though.
The real nucular bomb here would be if Fitzgerald finds a way to file actual criminal charges over the Administration’s inventions of the case for invading Iraq, not just the spiteful outing of Plame. Rice was in *that * up to the gap in her teeth as well, and would not be a politically-acceptable choice to replace Cheney as VP.
I don’t know. Between Frist and Delay and Cheney, the GOP has some serious image problems. Even the tightest of the righties is going to flinch about pulling that Republican lever now. The party won’t be destroyed, but if it was 2006 I would be surprised if it retained either House.
More to the point, if true, Bush has being lying to all us Americans ever since.
xt, if this somehow splits the religious right from the regular old conservatives, the GOP core will be knocked down to 15-20% of voters. That’s not where a major party wants to find itself. I doubt the religious wing would take charges of bearing false witness that seriously, and I think the vanilla conservatives understand why Reagan made his deal with the devil, but it might happen.