I think that can be an accurate description of suffering anxiety. So some people are definitely their own prisons through no fault of their own.
Judges everyone
“I can’t judge anyone”
Cool.
If your glass is half-empty, then, yeah, maybe life is a prison. There are places I can’t go, people I can’t meet, things I can’t do.
If your glass if half-full, then life is remarkably free, especially for citizens of the richer nations. There are a hell of a lot of places I can go, thousands of people I get to meet, and amazing things I get to do.
(Then there’s the guys who say, “Somebody stole my glass.”)
No, I want to disregard it because it was quoted by Machinaforce.
Some would even say that freedom is a prison and prison is freedom.
nm. Too stupid
Maybe you should quit using Charles Manson as a source – dude’s crazier than a shithouse rat and one evil son of a bitch. The day he dies I’m popping open a bottle of champagne.
Too stupid for this thread?
But considering the OP’s track record here on the Dope, Manson should be his patron saint.
So, you’re the author of that Seer of Forbidden Truth blog, arent you.
– Groucho Marx
I work in a prison. The vast majority of inmates there agree they are in a prison and that they lack freedom. This overwhelming unanimity of opinion amidst this quite diverse population leads me to conclude that the “personal interpretation” aspect of defining those terms is much less significant than the general interpretation of what those terms mean.
I also posit that those who hold the opinion noted in the quote above are people who have not served time in prison, and not had very specific constraints imposed on their freedom.
Dear god no. I’m not crazy, but the ad hominem fallacy is giving me issues with combating what is written on there.
But isn’t it a logical fallacy to just dismiss someone because they are crazy?
No, prison is something which is taking away your freedom to do things. It can’t be self-imposed. If you deny yourself permission to do something than it shows you didn’t really want to do it. If you had really wanted to do it then you wouldn’t have accepting the self-denial. You can choose to do something or you can choose not to; but either way you made the choice.
As for the idea that you can be free inside a prison, it’s possible. Suppose all you want out of life is a roof over your head and regular meals; prison will provide you with that. If that’s your personal definition of freedom then you’re free. But that’s the opposite of saying the prison exists in your mind. In such a case, it’s freedom that’s in your mind.
Ugh. How many more thousands of times do you need to hear us tell you that you should dismiss him because he is demonstrably wrong? Crazy is just a bonus.
Have you tried focusing your ability to point out logical errors on the guy with no physical freedom who is claiming to be free?
Well, it depends. If Charles Manson said “the sky is blue”, no I’m not going to dismiss him. If he starts going on about Helter Skelter and race wars and the Beatles and how he’s God, then yeah, I’m going to dismiss him.
He’s also one of the worst serial killers in U.S. history, and has never repented of it. He seems proud of his work. That alone should count for something.
(Dude, how many more of these threads are you going to write? I get the impression that you have this need to sound deep, but it’s really just a lot of jibberish)
“We are all just prisoners here, of our own device.”
A bit of advice from an old guy. Don’t study philosophy from the Eagles, or Charles Manson.
“They’re prisons! Man made prisons! You’re doing time. You get up in the morning. She’s there. You go to sleep at night. She’s there. It’s like you gotta ask permission to use the bathroom. Is it all right if I use the bathroom now? Yeah, and you can forget about watching TV while you’re eating. Oh, yeah. You know why? Because it’s dinner time. And you know what you do at dinner? You talk about your day. How was your day today? Did you have a good day today or a bad day today? Well, what kind of day was it? Well, I don’t know. How about you? How was your day? It’s sad , Jerry! It’s a sad state of affairs!!”
-Kramer
QFT