When someone says prison is in the mind it speaks of a different freedom. I’m not trying to defend him, but I’m trying to point out the counters people might have to some points.
I would say the “fallacy” you’re looking for is this one then: Glittering generality - Wikipedia
It’s not technically a logical fallacy, but it doesn’t need to be because the quote isn’t making a logical claim. It is appealing to the emotion that the term “freedom” is laden with.
Maybe I am in prison, but the warden is really pretty. Especially when she’s wearing that purple nightgown. And double especially when she isn’t.
Regards,
Shodan
Did your mom have you tested?
I was mostly referring to how you can’t just dismiss someone just because they are crazy (which I think is a fallacy).
But you are correct I think, freedom is a pretty emotionally charged term just like slavery. Such words evoke emotion over reason and are usually likely to win people over.
You shouldn’t listen to them because they are crazy either.
And some would have a wank right in front of ye. What’s your point?
So then what is one supposed to do.
Do about what?
“Questions are a burden to others, and answers a prison for oneself.”
Being imprisoned “frees you” from the burden of making decisions. What shall I have for dinner tonight? Being free, I am compelled to decide, but in prison, I would have that decision lifted from my shoulders, simplifying things greatly.
More seriously, everyone is not only a prisoner in his or her own head…but in solitary confinement. No one can ever really know another person’s mind. At best, we tap out code against the walls.
So you’re saying he’s right then? Or do you mean something else?
In response to someone else, I said if I can’t write him off for being crazy but I shouldn’t listen to him because he’s crazy then what do you do?
Ignore him completely, and go listen to people that aren’t crazy.
And what if those other people say something similar to what I quoted from the beginning of the thread?
What are you looking for exactly… permission from others to think that Manson’s insane rantings had a shred of validity to them?
Why have you latched on to a criminal psychopath for guidance and insight to the human condition?
Don’t look for an authority figure who will tell you what to think. Listen to ideas from a lot of different sources, compare them, and think for yourself. Be your own authority figure.
I mean about five different things altogether. Seriously, there is no one single answer to this. Even Charles Manson can say something pithy. It’s an adage, not an actual philosophical principle.
Other people have said the same thing. Google the phrase. “We are all in prison; I built mine myself, but it doesn’t make it any easier to get out of.” “We are all in prison, but not everyone recognizes the fact.” etc.
If Charles Manson said, “Eat less and exercise more,” would you reject this because he’s crazy?
Obviously not since everyone knows that, and it’s backed by science.
So pretty much what you are saying is that what he says is true isn’t news and anything new he says isn’t true? Seems like he just cobbled together a few ideas from previous people just to sound profound and deep in order to fool a group of people into thinking him some messiah.
I certainly wouldn’t conclude that “anything new he says isn’t true.” Who can know? He might have an epiphany, and figure out something. Or he might just find a clever way to phrase it.
He’s evil and crazy, but he ain’t stupid.
Personally, I far prefer Vaughn Bode, the cartoon messiah, who also spouted obvious wisdom and thoughts that were deeply shallow. But he was also funny, and drew sexy pictures. He didn’t have anything of great value to say, but he said it (and drew it) well, and he was infinitely the nicer fellow.
In one of Bode’s cartoons, a little figure is looking out of a huge window, which, as the scene pulls back, is revealed to be the lens of an eye. “This is the best view in the universe,” the guy says, and his wise mentor says, “This is the only view of the universe.”
Profound? Nah. But nicely depicted.
In short what he said isn’t new or exclusive to him right?
Well that makes sense and makes me feel a bit better. Anyone can parrot someone else, in this case he just used that to play the role of guru in a turbulent time to appear wise enough to lure in those looking for guidance.
And then you have quackers that completely miss the mark: https://www.ideapod.com/idea/The-Final-Lesson-of-Truth-from-Seer-Friedrich-Nietzsche/569eba60474f142412877be6