What does the location of this message board have to do with anything?
As for things I don’t like, well, over-sensitivity to criticism is global, I guess. I don’t really keep lists of “Things I Don’t Like About Country XXX”.
LolaCocaCola - Just as a point of interest, you do know where the company that builds this mesaage board is from. Right ?
And you didn’t just assume something blindly and without thought, per chance ?
lol, okay.
Regardless of where the company that built this message board is from, the company that leases it is American based, and most of the posters are American .
I am just tired of the constant America-bashing on this message board. It’s fucking rude to constantly insult your host for one thing!
Where are the England bashing, Italy bashing, Germany bashing threads?
Are Americans THAT evil???
Fuck, NO!
I have a feeling that America’s omnipresence in world affairs might have something to do with America-bashing, don’t you think?
**Maeglin[/b - Do you think constantly harping about it on a message board is going to change anything?
Quit your bellyaching, already.
You’re making a great case with this attitude Lola - no you are, really…!!
In the process of luring Saddam into our ‘trap’, wouldn’t that send our already dismal economy further into a tailspin?
Not that I think telling Saudi Arabia to buzz wouldn’t be satisfying, it would, I just don’t see where it’s even possible.
The second we start screwing around with the status quo- in terms of oil supply- the second the world’s economies head straight down the crapper.
We’re fucked in that region, anyway you look at it- Stay, and they hate us and continue to persecute us. Leave, and we go broke… taking the rest of the free world with us.
Dammed if we do, dammed if we don’t.
Constant America bashing?
Show me how many current threads there are “bashing” America, started by non-Americans, please.
I won’t deny there are some threads that offer perfectly valid criticism of US foreign policy – most of them started by Americans, I would guess – but if you can show me huge numbers of posts doing nothing but offering mindless hatred I would be saddened and surprised.
Well, I certainly will not partake in this Brit pile-on. There have been a fair share of America bashing threads that I’ve seen since the short time I’ve been here. Certainly more so than any other nation.
Complaining about America’s foreign policy on a message board will not get you any results, this I will guarantee you.
Now I shall remove myself from this pile-on, and you all can bitch about America to your heart’s content, cuz as far as I’m concerned, it’s pointless and tedious.
Cheerio.
Brit pile-on? Where, exactly? And when did for evidence of a complaint become unreasonable? I’ll assume since you didn’t respond to my request that you couldn’t find any threads.
Why have Great Debates at all? After all, it’s hardly going to change anyone’s policy on abortion, or immigration, or evolution in education, or gun control, is it?
Talk about over-sensitive.
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Ohhhh, I dunno.
I am at work and don’t have time to search for, copy and paste threads. Why don’t you be a dear and do it for me?
Because the above problems are everyone’s problems and not offensive to only one group of people.
Hey, I have an idea! There’s gotta be some things about England you don’t agree with or like? Why not start a thread about that?
Well, I don’t think so!
Now I really must leave this thread for a meeting before lunch.
Have fun!
tips hat
Well, I guess this thread has gone its own way. :rolleyes:
Is it not possible to have a thread about America’s involvement with other nations without it turning into a “Why America sucks/doesn’t suck” thread? I swear this has got to be one of the top 5 hijack topics on the boards.
Apologies, Stinkpalm. I’ll try to stick on track after this.
Lola: without wishing to turn this into a train wreck, a couple of people commenting on your outburst does not constitute a pile-on. And if you decry the number of America-bashing threads on this board, it’s your responsibility to demonstrate your point, not mine. If American foreign policy isn’t relevant “to everyone” (particularly, as you point out, on “an American message board”) I’m a little confused as to why on earth not.
In short: I genuinely have no axe to grind with you or with America in general. I am curious as to why you think these boards are so biased when most discussions of US foreign policy are (a) not “America bashing” and (b) started by Americans.
Again, apologies Stinkpalm.
If fighting ignorance, bad behavior, and generally foolish attutides is belly-aching, then I stand guilty as charged.
I was discussing this p.o.v. at the weekend, with someone very well informed on Arabic/African politics. She is also, out of interest anti-American, anti-Muslim state and anti-Islam. I’ll summarise some of the points of that discussion.
The resentment stems from the meddling in the politics of the region and the perception that the US is not willing to consider any other p.o.v. than their own (that is the general perception of those we know connected with/sympathetic to the region)
News footage of rabidly anti-American stars-and-stripe burning mobs are not necessarily representative of all of those who are tired of US-intervention (meddling or being helpful, depending on your p.o.v.) American posters wouldn’t like for the rest of the world to assume the political views of their more ignorant and bigoted citizens to be representative of the US as a whole?
No one blames the US for acting in its own best interests, but surely other countries should be allowed to do so too, without being branded as being resentful of the US.
Anti-US feeling is the result of interference in the politics and/or ecomomy of countries in the region. Expressing annoyance at such intervention in the politics or economy of a particular country does not mean that all in the regions want the destruction of the US.
Oh, don’t worry about that. If we were to pull out, we wouldn’t be gone very long, and we’d be in a much stronger position when we returned. There is no doubt in my mind that Saudi Arabia needs us. They, however, need to be convinced. So let’s do it. Let’s leave. Within a year we’ll be back. We know it. And they will, too, just as soon as we’re gone.
Fact is, we’ve been withdrawing little by little for the past few years. This whole “pissing off Saudi Arabia” stuff is not new. They never liked us, and they resent us for being there. Their leaders have forgotten why we are there, though, so let’s give them a reminder and just leave.
I so very much dislike people with no gratitude.
By ‘Saudi Arabia’ do you mean the House of Saud, or the majority of the people of Saudi ?
You mean the House of Saud needs us to prevent democratic elections in Saudi Arabia?
No gratitude indeed.
I guess I mean the government. The government doesn’t like us for our supposed immorality, bad manners, and alleged corruption of their women, who they treat like dirt, incidentally.
The unfortunate thing is that if we do leave we condemn a lot of the Saudi people to death, because we are the only thing keeping Saddam from attacking.
But hey, we can’t be the conscience of the world, right? Their leaders can decide for their people, right? If they want to get creamed, they’re well within their rights to do whatever they want to. Who are we to get in the way? :rolleyes: