Are You a Person Who Complains (re Goods & Services)?

I’m not talking about going out to dinner and getting a severed finger in your clam chowder, or getting your own finger severed during a manicure. I mean do you complain about things that, in the long run, you’d probably forget about, anyway?

I have a friend who is pretty picky about anything for which she is paying. She’s nice and polite, but is not afraid to speak up if she’s not getting the experience she wants out of a situation. (Case in point: The other day she and I went to Crate & Barrel and then out to dinner. She asked a C&B employee to look in the back and find her another box of paperwhite bulbs, because all of the boxes out out for purchase had (IMO, minor) flaws, and she wanted to give them as a gift. Then, at dinner, she asked for another straw because the server had placed the first straw he brought her on the table (and she won’t put anything in her mouth that has touched the table - except, apparently, the silverware), and asked for another bun for her sandwich because the first was too dried out. Again, I stress that she was polite and friendly, but I probably would have overlooked at least two of the three things she complained about.)

So two fairly recent occurrences in my life have got this friend encouraging me to complain (as incentive, she recites a veritable litany of free stuff she’s gotten by complaining).

  1. A couple of months ago, I went to the supermarket and bought, among other things, a bottle of white wine vinegar. Somehow I got through the entire process of taking it off the shelf, putting it into my basket, scanning it at the self-checkout, bagging it and taking it home before I noticed a spider (not so itsy-bitsy) dangling inside the bottle, suspended in the vinegar by a couple of cobwebs. (The sad thing is, I *really * wanted to show it to SkipMagic, who was out for the day, so instead of returning it to the store, I just went and bought another bottle (checking carefully for spiders first) to use.)

  2. The other day, after an exhaustive search (six local stores and the internet) for a size 9.5 pair of Kenneth Cole boots in a camel color, I finally decided to give up and buy the boots in black. Only one place (the store where I originally saw them) even carried the camel color; the rest carried them in either just black, or black and espresso. So I went back to the store where I’d seen them originally, and asked to try on the black ones. At some point early in the transaction I mentioned to the shoe salesman that I’d been trying to find them in camel, and wasn’t able to.

And that’s when he began talking straight out of his ass.

“Believe it or not,” Annoying Sales Person (ASP) said, “the black ones are even MORE rare than the camel-colored.”

:confused:

I said nothing, zipping up the right boot in silence. (Please take this moment to review my earlier statement about how EVERY damn store - on-line or off - carried the black ones, fewer carried the espresso, and ONE - this very store - carried the camel.)

As I checked out the new kicks in the mirror, ASP coiled and struck again:

“You know, Kenneth Cole makes some very nice boots. Those right there are VERY high-quality leather.”

:dubious:

Again, I was silent. (Please take this moment to picture me thinking, “Oh yeah, buttcup? Then all that ‘Synthetic Upper’ jazz I noted in the item description when shopping for the boots on-line must have been French for ‘Real Nice Flap o’ Cow Ass’.”

At that point, I just started tuning him out. I knew when I walked in the store that I was going to buy the black boots (which I think is what made the ‘sales pitch’ even more annoying), so I thought that I could avoid more ass-talking if I simply stopped listening.

And then he got in one more strike.

As I handed him the box and said, “I’ll take them,” he exclaimed, “Wow - I wish ALL women were as decisive as you are!”

:mad:

WHAT??!??!?

I didn’t speak a word to him as the sale rang through, because I was too busy counting the moments until I could walk away from him (I almost always choose “flight” over “fight”). Once I had, though (after he wrote his name on my receipt and said, “Ask for me next time - I’ll give you red-carpet treatment!”), I was (quite possibly overly-) annoyed the whole way home. The lying, the patronizing . . . I didn’t have to take this! Why, I should take the damn boots back just to keep that ass-gabber from getting that commission!

But of course I didn’t. I mean, who really wants to go back to the mall at this time of year? :eek:

So tell me, y’all . . . would you complain in either of these instances? My (aforementioned) friend says I should absolutely call the boot store and complain about ASP (I might get free boots, she says), AND she has taken it upon HERSELF to call the vinegar company and complain about the spider (because I told her flat-out that I wasn’t going to do it; I mean, how could I complain when I actually kept the bottle because I thought my husband would find it really cool to have his own personal pickled arachnid?).

My husband recommends writing a letter to the boot store about ASP. Other people (whom I also consider smart and reasonable) have said, "Meh - forget about it and put that energy into finding the boots in the color you want. I mean, hey, maybe he really did think they were leather . . . "

And I still haven’t really decided what I’m going to do. But I’d definitely say (in answer to my own OP), that I am not, for the most part, a Person Who Complains.

Nope. I’m a doormat. I ate lunch at Moe’s today and ordered an Ugly Naked Guy. Which, based on the one I had the other day, is a taco (soft or hard shell) with black or pinto beans (but no meat) with salsa, lettuce, shredded cheese, sour cream and guacamole.

Mine today didn’t have meat (because I said no when the guy listed the meats) and didn’t have the sour cream or guacamole. If I’d noticed at once, I might have gone back and complained–and I hope I’d have gotten a side of guacamole and one of sour cream free, but as it was, I didn’t notice until less than half of my taco was left, by which time it wasn’t worth it.

And I probably wouldn’t have complained in either of your incidences, either. Well, I might have taken the spider back.

It depends.

If I’m in a fast-food joint, only if I get the wrong thing, and it’s something that horribly offends me. If I’m in a sit-down service restaurant, it depends on whether it’s super busy and whether the item in question horribly offends me (I won’t, for instance, send back a thing where I asked for mashed potatoes instead of french fries, but if I get eggs and the white isn’t cooked all the way I’ll gag and send it back).

I go out of my way to be polite to waitresses and servers in restaurants, and customer service reps in stores, because I worked in the service industry most of my life and I know how much a nice customer can brighten your day. So if, say, I get horrible service from someone, you bet your ass I’ll complain - I’m not exactly the nicest or most tactful person on the planet and I can extend the effort to be polite just out of common decentcy, and I’m not even getting paid. Someone who is getting paid to be nice to me should at least extend the effort back. I do it mostly because I think the bad service people need to learn that when you’re on the clock you need to have your best foot forward. For some reason the people of my generation (I’m 22) have no freakin’ work ethic, and it pisses me off.

But on the flip side, if I get particularly good service at a restaurant, I’ll write a letter to the manager commending my waitstaff, and if I get really good help at say, Wal-Mart, I’ll let their direct supervisor know how helpful they were. It goes both ways, you know?

~Tasha

Excellent point, and that’s also something I don’t do.

Actually, I do it here at work sometimes, you know, shoot someone’s manager an email of praise if they’ve gone above and beyond the call of duty to help me out (although when people do that for me, and copy me on the email to my manager, it makes me feel a little weird . . . ), but not in terms of Customer Service. I think I’m going to try to change that. Thanks, tashabot! :slight_smile:

No. I wish I had a spine, but I’m so intimidated by strangers that I’m all about limiting the time I have to interact with them.

Yeah, I’ve become quite the letter writer in the past few years. I usually don’t sweat the small stuff (fast food, small items, etc.) but with the big stuff I’m pretty quick with the pen. I get a response about half of the time and have gotten a few freebies. It’s funny, I actually gain respect for the companies that aknowledge the mistake and make reparations even though their product/service was defective in the first place!

In the cases you mentioned, I would have simply returned the vinegar for a new one but would have definitely written a letter regarding ASP.

I don’t complain much, in the sense you’re talking about. (I grumble a great deal, but that’s a different matter.) I have schooled myself to considerable patience over the years, and am not particularly picky about most products, as long as they meet my needs. I do tend to complain about rudeness–I manage to stay polite, and I expect others to respond in kind.

I will complain if a product or service doesn’t isn’t up to what I need it for. If I buy a gadget or tool, and it’s broken, I’ll complain. I’ll also complain if I’m served food that’s inedible, or if it’s unappetizing due to a fault on the part of the restaurant. (If, for example, they served me a bloody steak when I ordered it medium well, or told me there was no cilantro in a dish that proved to be full of the stuff.)

I don’t complain to get free stuff–indeed, I find complaining with the intent of getting free stuff crass and obnoxious. I complain to ensure that I get what I paid for, and to correct inappropriate or incompetent behavior. If that means I’m given a replacement at no extra charge, that’s perfectly fine, but I don’t ask for anything beyond that. (I’ve known people who would make silly complaints about a meal at a restaurant to try to get the manager to give it to them for free.)

As to your two scenarios:

Pickled Spider–Depending on how neat-looking it was, I’d either keep it and get another bottle, or I’d dump the spider out and use the vinegar anyway (provided I was only using it for myself–I’d make a point to use another bottle for guests, who might be on a low-arachnid diet :D).

The ASP–I would most likely have told the ASP to stop talking after the first lie. Assuming that worked, I wouldn’t have complained.

If the whole conversation played out, I would have complained. That was slimy, unprofessional, and exceedingly rude. I would have called him on each lie, and after the “decisive” crack, would have replied, “Maybe I’m not so decisive, after all. Take these back. By the way, where’s your manager?” Said manager would be informed that the ASP was condescending and either a liar or ignorant of the merchandise.

Spider - I would’ve probably just returned it, explaining why, or kept it for the “omg look!” factor. After all, it’s not the store’s fault that they got vinegar with extra protein. :slight_smile:

Salesman - Probably would have countered his idiocy with the truth and a not-really-sincere smile. The crack about women shoppers - well, I would have been lucky if I’d have been able to stop myself at an angry glare.
I haven’t complained much. Typically when I do it’s because I’m a vegetarian and I’ll get food with meat in it when I ordered it without. I just politely point it out and explain I simply cannot eat it, and haven’t had any problems with getting a replacement.

I detest people who bitch and moan about the slightest issue with the intent of getting free items, or who do things like expect clerks to violate store policies and raise a fuss until they get their way. All that does is harm people who follow the rules of return policies, etc., and cause lots of stress to clerks who are just doing their jobs.

It all depends.

I’m back in retail PT as a 2nd job & I try to put myself in the position of the person in the customer service role.

The one time that sticks in my mind was Thanksgiving a few years ago. I qualified for a free turkey @ ShopRite & stopped in one night to pick it up. The cashier was so far beyond surly she made Russell Crowe look like Gandhi. Just a mess of teenage snottiness to the nth degree. I politely asked for a receipt for the turkey (hey - I just like a frickin’ receipt for things I take out of a store) and got a “Why? It’s free” (spoken in that tone that only teenage girls can master). I was willing to overlook this (in a slow boil kinda way), but as I was passing outside the store in front of the big glass windows by the registers, I saw her watching me and surreptitiously - but DEFINITELY - give me the finger.

I went back in and got a manager and told him what had transpired & that she obviously needed to take her dinner break (and possibly have a personality transplant at some point) ASAP. He brought her into his office and bitched her out in front of me. She apologized and was sobbing. I felt bad for about 2 seconds, but hey - if you’re having that bad of a day that a polite request for a receipt sends you over the falls, you need to consider another line of work.

VCNJ~

The free stuff person is full of crap. Free boots, come on. The eatery person has some strong phobias going on, and advice from her is not to be listened to. There is a difference between complaining and simply asking for what you ordered. I ordered this not that, or this way, not that way. Miss is this rain check in yet, it’s been two weeks.

Complaining is what you do when a situation gets out of hand. Manager I’ve waited an hour, to be helped and I’ve asked for service four times and been ignored. Manager she gave me the finger and called me a bitch. Manager you still don’t have the raincheck in for that add and it’s four months old.

I complain when things are really notputupwithable. I complained when I was kept waiting for a good hour for a milkshake and a Pepsi in a one-sixteenth-full restaurant, for example, or when I found an orange plastic shard in a cereal box, or when the sprouts I bought were rotten (well, no, I just returned them.)

As for the shoe incident, I probably wouldn’t have complained about the first two, but the last one… oh, man, would they have heard an earful from me.

I tell the manager and person I deal with how good the employee handled the situation if something sets it apart. Many managers come to the requested meet expecating to get ragged on, so it’s an upper for them and the employee, when complimented.

I could see requesting a new straw set on a table if unwrapped. Everything gets wiped with their clean up rag. The silverware always stays on my napkin when not on my plate. That woman is way Obsesive Compulsive.

Oh, on a number of occasions, I’ve told managers that the staff member gave me especially good service.

I probably would have kept the pickled spider and gotten another bottle of vinegar. I don’t come across recipes calling for pickled spiders that often, but I’d like to be PREPARED, you know?

As for the ASP…I would have asked to talk to the manager. Especially when he started talking about high quality leather. I certainly wouldn’t have purchased anything from him, as that would have been rewarding him. I’d have been tempted to slap him upside the head with what TubaDiva calls my fool-killin’ stick (it’s just a walking stick, honest, I’ve NEVER killed anyone with it. Really.) and claimed that it slipped out of my hand.

Well, let me be clear that my friend does not complain just to get free stuff; like Balance, she complains to get what she paid for. Though she may be pickier than the rest of us, she’s not trying to scam. I think she told me about all the free stuff she’d gotten merely as incentive, because (specifically, with the spider incident) she could tell that merely saying, “You HAVE to call them” wasn’t working, and she felt (again, pickier than most) like this was too egregious an error to just let slide without letting the company know.

Besides, who needs a lifetime supply of free vinegar? :stuck_out_tongue:

And yeah, I seriously doubt I’d get free boots (darn!), but I still found ASP annoying enough (though I was SO annoyed, I did wonder if maybe I was just having some issues) to want to tell someone about his behavior.

Nah, she’s just an Art Director. :wink:

The only time it’s ever caused an issue for me is when I’m trying to buy her a gift; I feel compelled to check it thoroughly for flaws.

The straw was unwrapped, BTW. Our server had already told us they might be out of straws, so when she asked for a second one, I joked that he’d probably had to pull one out of the trash and lick it off. :smiley:

Like that helped the situation.

You made it sound like the other woman thought you should get free boots, because they only had black, and the clerk was tactless.

The spider would have went back to the store for a refund, nothing more.

The vinegar: that’s a tough call. I mean, how often do you see a pickled SPIDER? That’s almost worth it for the entertainment value alone. But I’d’ve probably taken it back to the store.

The boots: I’d’ve called him on the “it’s fine leather” lie, saying something like, “Oh, that’s interesting. I understood that these were fake leather.*” And then I’d look at the label and say, “See?” and under my breath I’d go “neener neener.” I’d ignore the rest of his bullshit though.

If something really bothers me, I complain. If something really impresses me, I compliment.
I really hate the thought of being a pain the the ass, so I just don’t sweat a lot of stuff.

*I’d find a better term than “fake leather” though.

Where can I get one of these sticks?

I generaly complain or compliment after the entire experience is over and I’m set to leave a store or resturant.

On a food issue I might mention it if it can be easily corrected. Like I’m very picky about my soda at resturants so it isn’t uncommon for me to ask my server to try a different fountain if the mix tastes off.

If I’m at a store and they are out of something unless a really need it I only mention it at the register when they ask if I found everything I was looking for.

If I’m at a resturant and I find the bathroom is out or low on something like soap or paper towels I generaly mention it to the host/es

I guess I don’t expect issues to be corrected right away but would like to not see the same problem next time I’m by. If a problem is reoccoring I will spend time talking to a manager or writing a letter.