Are you an Ex-Pat

I should have been more specific. For places that have similar cultures, then the differences are minor. When Canadians claim that their country is better than the US, I have to say that that it isn’t better it is just different. I’d say that for most of the Western nations.

For some, your issue isn’t relevant or important as to whether they would enjoy living in a certain place. For you it is. The difference between how the US and Canada treat gays is far closer together than someplace like Yemen where being gay is illegal and the punishment is death. So, I can see how it might be upsetting to you that the US isn’t as far advanced as Canada, or even the other western nations, but in comparison to some of the rest of the world, I’d say those differences are pretty darn close together.

Yep, if I had to make a choice between living in the US or Yemen, I’d pick the US. But that isn’t a choice I would ever have to make. Thank God.

I’m an expat who’s about to be a repat. We’ll be hauling our dual-citizen daughter to the Great White North, where she’s sure to wonder why the heck she’ll have to get into a car every morning to go to daycare :wink:

I was born in England, but left when I was two and moved to Canada with my family. Like Ginger, I’m a Canadian expat living in the US (so cal) and moved here to marry my husband who is a US citizen who has lived here his entire life about 2 years ago. I don’t know any other fellow Canadians around here, I wish I did though. I am not sure if I will be applying for citizenship when the time comes. It would depend on if I have to give up my British and Canadian passports. Oh and I miss the health care and my family and other things about Toronto but here is fine too and eventually I will adjust.

And now one month later… YES!!!

I arrived in Canada two days ago.

I love it here.

I love this thread, as we are planning to possibly expat ourselves in the next couple of years…

One thing I noticed about the “I have a green card but can’t be arsed to get citizenship” thing. We have a Canadian friend who got his green card but wasn’t sure about seeking citizenship, even though he feels he will be here forever (he’s been here over 15 years already). His immigration attorney strongly recommended it, for several reasons. One that sticks in my memory was criminality. Not that he’s a criminal- hell, he’s an attorney! :wink: But his lawyer gave an example of being in a bar or club, and somebody does something bad to his girlfriend or something. Guy-stuff ensues, and punches are thrown by both parties. Dumb bar guy faces charges- the non-citizen faces deportation. :eek: Not good.

Being a non-citizen can result in previously unforseen problems. If you plan on living here forever, you might consider citizenship.
Funny- I have another friend with both Irish and American citizenship. Back in the 80’s, he would never dream of travelling internationally on his Irish passport. Now, he never uses the American one! Times change…

American living in the Netherlands. This is what happens when you marry a furriner, you end up living in furrin climes.

Though Thinsulate works better for me actually.

We moved here two years ago, when Dearly Beloved became abruptly unemployed. We had always planned to move to Europe – indeed, Dearly Beloved announced upon our date number three that he was planning to marry and have kids and that he furthermore was going to live and raise his children in Europe and that if this was a problem I should tell him now. (I asked if I could finish my dinner first, before we got married had kids and changed continents. This caused him to blush, which I have not succeeded in provoking again.)

In any event, we became unemployed when our kids were four and two. We figured, no time like the present, and before they start school seemed like a good idea.

The catch was, I had already bought tickets for me and the kids to go to Holland for the summer for three weeks thence – a thng we did every year. The newly unemployed do not toss out a couple thousand bucks in airplane tickets, or at least they do not if they are me.

So we sold it all, house, car, the lot, packed the other car full of stuff and drove it into a container and three weeks later stood bag and baggage in – well, actually, in Brussels, it’s closer than A’dam.

Then Dearly Beloved decided he wanted to stay in the south of Holland, and indeed in his own home town. This necessitated a return to school and a drastic career switch.

I become eligible for citizenship this year I believe; I will probably apply. I always thought dual citizenship was cool, how’s that for a compelling reason? :cool:

I am told by the nice people at City Hall that there is one other American in town but we have not met. I am the token American at the local english club which meets twice a month – one American, one Aussie, the rest are brit. It’s nice to speak your native language now and again.

What?

Yes, yes I am.

I am from Denmark, but moved to Los Angeles to marry my sweet Shayna 4 years ago. Before that, I had lived in Germany for two-and-a-half years.

I have permanent residency (i.e., Green Card) and currently have no plans to go for citizenship. Mostly because Denmark emphatically does not allow dual citizenship and losing work privileges in the EU would suck, but also because I am at heart a Dane, dammit. It actually surprised me to learn how emotionally attached I am to that…

I do try to make up for not being a citizen by taking part in the political process in other ways - I like to think that I spend more time and money on political matters than the average American. I’d gladly do jury duty, too.

Yes and No. I was born an raised in the Faroe Island, technically a part of the danish kingdom, but independant in a lot of ways (We’re not in the EU for one thing, though Denmark is).

I moved to Norway a few years ago to study, but I don’t really consider that a foreign nation, since my mother was born and raised norwegian, and I’ve had citizenship from birth. I spent most of my summers in Norway, and half my family is here. I speak the language fluently as well, use it at home to my mother, in fact.

So am I an ex-pat? Dunno. Sometimes it feels like it, sometimes it feels like I’ve always been one. Both my homes feel likes homes. You decide.

Sounds like girlfriend’s brothers impressed upon young Harry the importance of a sudden and permanent address change…

British, been expat in Houston, KL in Malaysia and Baku in Azerbaijan. All moved with the job so on work visas. Eventually a life of upping sticks every 18 months became tiresome so we jacked it in and went to Argentina (mrs blond is a native) and I am now a permanent resident here.
Probably wont bother with the citizenship, perm residence is as good as. Although there are no issues with dual citizenship, if citizenship is as much of a pain in the butt as the residency and getting the equivalent of a social security number was, well I doubt I have the patience to do it. The two blonditos and and the blondita (aka the kids) will keep UK passports and may get them Argentine citizenship.
Looks like we will stay here for a goodly long while, although heading back to asia or elsewhere in south america as an expat on a companies nickle for a few years could still be an options down the line.
Doubt I’ll be back to the UK ever excepting family visits and barring serious instability here.

What have your experiences been with getting the residency/soc sec number/citizenship in yoiur cases. I’d bore you iwth teh details of it here, but, well it is boring so I won’t.

I’m an American living in Baghdad. I’m a foreign aid worker, so I pretty much go where the work is, although I have had stints working in home offices in Washington, DC.

I’m really burnt out and I don’t know how much longer I can stay here.

I’m Indian, and living in the UAE. I’m here because my job is here. I expect to be an Indian expat in the UK this time next year. I was hoping it would be somewhere in the US, but one the directors in my company booked that position for himself :mad:

Loads of Indians here… can’t dodge 'em even if you try. :stuck_out_tongue:

My brother works here in the UAE too, and also hopes to be somewhere else this time next year. He’s considering Japan, courtesy an ex-girlfriend.

Briton of Indian descent, living Stateside (for just over ten years). I’ll probably be here for the rest of my natural, since I’m serving 6 life terms for grapefruit rustling. (okay, not really).

I’m not a citizen, yet.

Yeah, I hear you. After 3-4 months of (non-military) work, my brother couldn’t stand it anymore. His company limits the guys to 4 months in country, with a mandatory 30 days at home in between each contract.

I’m an American living in Japan, and have lived here three times for a total of 18 years. I first came over on a Mormon mission – although I’m not a Mormon any more.

I like Japan, but would never consider applying for Japanese citizenship. One vote against the LDP wouldn’t do much anyway. :frowning:

My wife is from Taiwan, so we’ll probably stay here long term.

Not at the time.

I’ve been one… two or three times, depending on how you count. Always for economic reasons: couldn’t get a job in Spain but could get it in the USA; had a job in Spain and my company transferred me to the USA; got a job “in Spain” but it implied being “on location” in Costa Rica (the first question in the phone interview was “are you willing to go to Costa Rica?”). Living outside of Spain has the added advantage of being away from my mother, but the disadvantage that the food is worse.

Yes, I am.

English, living in Russia, working for a Russian company. Quite how I ended up here is a bit of a mystery even to me.

I won’t be applying for permanent residency as it is an enormous headache, and I can’t see that it would currently benefit me. I have a work visa which runs for twelve months from the date of issue/ renewal, so I’ll probably stick around until they stop renewing it.

Or until we have another coup. :rolleyes:

Try two years since 2003. We are talking crispy, Co. Kurtz level of burnout here. The horror, the horror.