Who has said otherwise?
Read the thread.
And give your opinion, not just ask questions.
Uh, like if that is news or if that is a counter to what I said. It does not, it actually tells the people that the police needs to be told to stop resisting change and it will come by voting for people that will do that change.
As for Pennsylvania, while the advantage in polling has dropped for Biden, it has remained steady at around 6% over Trump in the last month.
I read the fucking thread, and I can’t find a reference to what you are talking about.
You missed it then.
Might it be possible that you are mistaken?
In my opinion, nobody in this thread has said otherwise. If your opinion differs, kindly point out where someone DID say that.
To help the poor confused @DrDeth, here is train of conversation you bumbled into:
and here he barges in for the gotcha:
Confusingly followed by:
No, because there’s little chance those that would do this wouldn’t have done so anyways. And a greater chance that we can get more people to not side with them.
Selective quoting: Yankee_1996_Champs also posted:
However, are you bothered that most US police unions are vocally endorsing Trump and the GOP swiftly?
And that is their right under the constitution.
My reply concerned that, not that unsupported idea that any cops have publicly said “they will be protecting Republican voters from now on and that Democratic voters are on their own.” because not only do I have grave doubts about that, and Google can’t find any cops who have said that, but since we dont wear large blazon “Democrat” or “Republican” on your foreheads, cops would have no way of knowing. I dismissed that line as total fantasy. Clearly any police officer who said that publically should be punished. But I doubt any have. I challenge him for a cite on that.
But the police unions have every Constitutional right to support any candidate they so choose. Just like the Teacher Unions (and in fact most unions) support Democrats.
In fact 30 or so Unions have Endorsed Biden:
Just admit you were eager for a gotcha against @Marvin_the_Martian and got confused about what he (Marvin) was referring to in his post.
Or perhaps you don’t understand how replying works on this board yet?
I am never eager for a "gotcha’. Thats how many on the board work, I dont.
And you seem to have a issue with posting a gotcha, since now you have done two, and also quoted selectively, which mean you understand how quoting works, but used it unfairly.
I’m quite confident I portrayed the interaction accurately.
Yes, you did. Every one of the posts I made in that sequence also contained a quote of the post I was replying to, so I’m not sure where DrDeth got confused.
I did not sat that, Yankee_1996_Champs said that. If you want a cite ask him, not me.
That’s fine. They can vote their conscience. It’s their right.
Biden’s policies speak to that directly. Look them up instead of watching right wing news.
If all you understand is safety in numbers, understand this: There are about 4 M school teachers and 700K cops. Teachers outvote the police almost 6:1. Let the police vote their conscience and the teachers vote theirs. We’ll see how it goes.
I don’t think you understand what these protests were about. The reason you don’t understand is because the right wing news sources you watch overwhelmingly either misrepresent or does not explain them to you. Watch better news sources.
All you’ve done thus far is project right wing fears. They may be your fears as well, but they reflect your right wing point of view, regardless of how much you protest to the contrary. You are not as well informed as you believe yourself to be.
Nobody expects all red districts to turn blue in any election in our lifetime. If LI votes for Trump again, so be it. Your family will be fine either way.
Understand something. The nation is divided. It has been divided for a very long time. Accept it and stop begging for a middle ground that doesn’t exist.
The majority of the population is more progressive and more diverse than it has been in the past. Conservatives and right wing groups don’t like the fact that social change is being made despite their resistance to it and they are getting more and more angry that they cannot stem the tide of progress towards a more just society. It is not an option to allow them to hold the rest of society hostage using the kinds of fear mongering and threats that you continue to repeat, ad nauseam.
Change and progress is harder for some than for others but it is inevitable. Regression to authoritarianism and fascism of the kind that the GOP has exhibited under Trump for the sake of your pleas for comity is no longer an option when it entails a capitulation to racism, misogyny and untenable economic disparity.
I didnt say that you did, nor did i ask you.
ACLU has a better slogan: Divest and Reinvest.
I like it.
Yes, police budgets should be cut, abolishing the police is a stupid idea and it is not going to work.
All I know is that the GOP owns the police departments now, police officers are done with Democratic voters and that is a fact. They want NOTHING to do with cities, and a lot of cities that are antigun, etc are going to have to serve themselves when violent confrontations happen, because police are not coming.
Police are going to be in the suburbs and rural areas from now on.
Policing should not be political–but both parties made it so.
Again, can you provide a respectable, impartial cite for your assertion that cops are done with Democratic voters? Or that cops want nothing to do with cities? Or that police are only going to be in the suburbs and rural areas from now on?
This forum isn’t just opinion. You have to bring in facts to support your claim, and be prepared to back up those facts with cites.