Is it a lie that the repubs continue to slash spending in wellfare programs?
Like say 40 billion in food stamps?
I also noticed that the dumbass ain’t brave enough to actually defend himself in the pit where he’d (normally – there’s always one jackhole, right?) have no one to help him. I’m sure there’s more like him, but thank the heavens (notice no sane conservative is in here licking his nuts) they’re a vanishing breed. Only dinosaurs and those consigned to watching history make a mockery out of them are left.
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Fewer. OBEY THE INSTRUCTIONS ! 
No, less abortions. Like, with the fetus half-dangling out of the vagina.
Nonsense. What matters is that it’s not a person, not how human it is; an appendix is human. Not that they actually believe or care that a fetus is a “human being”; they care about oppressing, tormenting and killing women.
It’s not a lie. They at best don’t care about the children they force into the world, and often abuse them given the chance. And of course there’s a shortage of shelters and and adoptive homes.
And “faith-based” facilities for women and children have a long history of being about abusing, raping, enslaving and tormenting the women, and molesting, abusing and murdering the kids then dumping them in a pit or unmarked grave. You might as well give the KKK custody of a bunch of black people, although the KKK would likely have more scruples than “pro-life” sadists.
They don’t. They are women hating bigoted monsters, whose only concern about women is to abuse and kill them. And at best only look at children as weapons to use against their mothers, when they aren’t outright molesting or killing the kids themselves.
Hector St. Clare is perfectly welcome to avoid having an abortion. So is my elderly male neighbor with all the anti-abortion and anti-funding the damned kindergarten signs on his front lawn.
Stand down, everyone. The voice of reason has arrived.
The voice of honesty. I’m not going to pretend to respect them or that I believe that they are about saving “the unborn” when everything they do disproves it. They hate women, their motivation is to oppress, torment and kill women; their activities in the US and all over the world prove it.
Frankly, I think anti-abortionists, so called pro-life really never had the opportunity to, or can’t think for themselves.
I see them as “It was good enough for daddy, then it’s good enough for me” with out an original idea in their head.
Some, sure, are strait up misogynists. Perhaps learned, perhaps a function of their environment, but can’t think for themselves, or certainly won’t go against the flow for where they live.
Or quite simply, they are broken. For what reason, I don’t know.
For the reasons stated above, I try to give them compassion and the benefit of the doubt. But because of people like Hector, it’s getting harder and harder to do.
A perfect display of what irks me so much about this. No one mentioned Republicans. No one is even talking about politics or political parties at all until the pro-choice side wants to bring it up. Then they tag the protesters with everything the Republican party has ever stood for.
Clinic protesters make up a very small percentage of the Republican voter base. People who care about child welfare also make up a small percentage of the Republican voter base. Now you want to point out the logic that says they aren’t the same people? Is there some mathematical law that demands issue independence from these people? Are you under the impression that if 99% of Republicans are against child welfare programs that 99% of abortion clinic protesters must be against it, too?
The thing is, you know better. Well, maybe not you, but smart people do. They know it’s logically flawed to say “Let me tell you about protesters. Republicans think…”
Right, not that they’ve thought for themselves and said “A fetus is a living human being and deserves to be spoken for.” Not that, of course.
Sure, if by “they,” you mean approximately half of those having abortions.
I don’t think that’s accurate, though I know a lot of people who are pro-life for the same reason they embrace the rest of the Republican platform: a combination of the just world hypothesis and good luck.
I like how this is phrased. So very unambiguous.
But do you also see the problem with not arguing about the issue and instead arguing about the people? That, instead of actually talking about thee issue of abortion, any discussion whatsoever devolves into Der Trihs type mind numbing stupidity, and how that could be a bad thing?
Right. They ignore science. Was this idea that a fetus is a person handed down to you, or have you done any investigation on your own?
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Now what were you saying again.
If someone wants to talk with me about their reasons for being pro-life and my reasons for being pro-choice, they can. When someone wants to say that being pro-choice means I shouldn’t get the vote, I don’t need to talk about being pro-life or pro-choice with them. Someone who doesn’t want me to vote is not interested in my opinion.
I’m guessing that the vast majority of clinic protesters are republican. The others, non affiliated. Bet you’re not gonna find too many democrats.
I also wouldn’t be to proud to point out that “People that care about child welfare make up a small percentage of the republican base”.
Which wasn’t even close to the point I was making. Yes, there are people on both sides of the issue with which it is a complete waste of time to try and discuss it with. But it harms any attempt to discuss the issue when people like enipla and Der Trihs lead the way with their idiotic pronouncements about everyone who disagrees with them.