Since you’re being such a twit, harping on the time-frame instead of the action that was pledged, I should point out that your statement is a lie. He’s certainly suggested that it might take longer, but he has yet to claim he won’t honor the pledge within the first 100 days as promised.
I never believed that Obama would do everything he promised. The most I expect is that he will try, barring the unforseen and/or additional information, to do most of the big stuff. I say “try” because I fully expect that he will back down on any proposal that’s extremely unpopular or costs him too much political capital.
He’s a big city politician after all. And that’s a good thing.
The alternative would have been wo- oh, wait, we didn’t really have a credible alternative. 
Help me out here. I’m an asshole because I think Obama broke a pledge? Or are you just randomly insulting people you don’t agree with.
From here:*
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BARACK Obama said last night he did not expect to honour his campaign pledge to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp in his first 100 days in office,***
Is it the fact that they spell it “honour” instead of “honor” that makes me a liar? I’m sure I can find at least half a dozen other sources that use the right spelling but say the same thing.
No, it’s the fact that you said:
He claimed no such thing, which I’ve already pointed out to you. The relevant portion of the actual transcript of the interview:
Again, I don’t actually think you’re a liar for your little twist of words, but then I’m not a picky little asshole who would think he broke his pledge if it took him 101 days to accomplish it. Hell, I’ll be pretty happy if he starts doing so within 100 days, as I’m sure he’s going to have a ton of hurdles (legal and otherwise) during the process, thanks to idiots like yourself who have no desire to see it closed.
Even if you are going to bitch about a “broken pledge”, shouldn’t you wait until those 100 days in office have elapsed? Can we at least get to day 1, first?
pkbites. If you can find a news story during the campaign in which Obama pledged to close Guantanamo in his first 100 days, I’ll buy you a beer. It never happened.
What is happening is that you’re interpreting the news articles of the last few days to mean he actually promised this. He didn’t. He merely promised to close the base at Gitmo. Period. He never said anything about the first 100 days until he was interviewed on the This Week program on Sunday in the US.
He said it wouldn’t happen in the first 100 days of his administration. He never said this during the campaign(that I can find).
Every article I’m reading suggests that he made the promise of closing it within the first 100 days.
Are you saying I can’t trust the media for accurate news?
I’m trying to find it too. I keep finding “Obama promised to close Guantanamo! Now he says he may not do it in the first 100 days as promised!” but I’m not finding “Obama promises to close Guantanamo in first 100 days!” I only did one page of Google-ing, I’m sure someone can find something if they want to prove their point.
Which seems unnecessary, because it’s a stupid point. I suppose you could say “It only goes to show that he’s so inexperienced that he can’t mop up a seven-year-old horrific travesty of justice and human rights within three months and change while administrating two wars and fixing a massive recession! What fools we were to elect such an amateur!” To which I can only say :rolleyes:. It takes as long as it takes. Would you rather he hurry it and screw it up?
Obviously y’all are not sick of Obama stuff yet. I suppose it just goes to that massive charisma thing: people are either drawn strongly or repelled strongly, filled with such antipathy toward a man who has not even done jack shit yet.
Ahh, so you DON’T have a cite. Okay.
From everything that I can find, it appears you are correct. There are a ton of groups who want for him to commit doing so in the first 100 days, but I can’t find him on record as actually pledging, promising, or even aspiring to accomplish any such thing in that time-frame.
So, pkbites, it’s on you. How about a cite for this “pledge” that you are calling him on?
BARACK Obama said last night he did not expect to honour his campaign pledge to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp in his first 100 days in office, but the US president-elect reiterated his vow to shut the facility eventually.*
Does this not sound like he promised to close it with 100 days? What good is providing cites when they’re wrong?
It could be taken many ways. One is that he pledged to shut down Gitmo (he did so), but that he doesn’t expect to accomplish that within 100 days (and we’re not seeing any evidence from you that he ever made such a pledge). I mean, shit man, how hard is this? I posted the transcript itself, which is what all of your sources (whatever the fuck it is you read) are likely basing their articles on. It would be kind of silly to make a pledge in the same interview in which you break it, and I certainly don’t see him doing so in the transcript.
So, again. Cite?
Yes, and I took it in the way it read.
I gave you my cites. The convoluted writings of “professional” journalists are no fault of mine. You yourself said it could be taken many ways.
Hell, your first link in this thread (where your snark first began) was even more clearly similar to my interpretation. Straight from your link:
So, he repeated his pledge. Check. It might not happen in 100 days. Check. Not seeing where he pledged that it would happen in 100 days, and repeating a pledge is not the same as breaking one in my world.
Did he break his pledge or did he not?
I spent an hour last night searching the archives of the Washington Post, the NY Times, and Proquest papers. I could find nothing that suggested Obama promised a time frame on closing Gitmo.
So, pkbites, you merely misinterpreted the news articles of the last two days.
If you ever find such an actual cite, please post it.
And if you don’t, pkbites, then perhaps you could admit that President Elect Obama isn’t the correct target for your ire.
Then I might consider that you’re not an asshole.
Not that I’ll hold my breath. Blue isn’t my color.
Answering the OP – Yes, I am.
Oh, and here today from Bloomberg…
Jan. 11 (Bloomberg) – President-elect Barack Obama said reviving the U.S. economy will require scaling back on his campaign promises… “I want to be realistic here, not everything that we talked about during the campaign are we going to be able to do on the pace we had hoped,”
No, really? Even the most overly optimistic and vaguely worded ones? Like… “change”? Will “change” be happening? Or, will “change” just not happen on the pace He had hoped? And of course if “change” doesn’t happen we already know why – it’ll be Bush’s fault.
I agre with Ralph.
I mean what is this obsession about a new President and what he plans to do in the middle of the biggest financial crisis for this country in 75 years. Seriously, can’t we get back to some missing white girl.
See post #68.
It’s the evil press. Always accusing presidents of lying.
Was it lying when George W. Bush said, “Mission accomplished”?
Was it lying when Bill Clinton said, “I did not have sexual relations with that woman”?
Was it lying when George HW Bush said, “Read my lips, no new taxes”?
Was it lying when Ronald Reagan said, “I don’t recall”?
Was it lying when Jimmy Carter said, “Did you see that huge fucking rabbit”?
Is this the huge Obama slip-up that will be enshrined in the pantheon of presidential lies? LIES, I tell you … all LIES!!!
Hell yes, I’m all Obadiah-ed out. Did you see what that rat bastard did to Tony Stark? What a fucking backstabbing traitor! That Obadiah is one snea. . . um.
Never mind.