Are you serious? You guys just banned TLDR?

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[QUOTE=faithfool]
Serious question for elfkin, if you don’t mind answering…

I’ve noticed a similar sentiment expressed before and although I’ve seen some of what you’re talking about, I’m probably on the ‘wrong’ side of the fence to have noticed it overtly. However, if it is as bad as it sounds according to your post, I’m not sure I could deal with it if I felt the same way. I mean, if that’s how I perceived things on say, a really conservative, fundamentalist type board, I wouldn’t post there. Why do people subject themselves to things they think are unjust if they don’t get anywhere changing things?

I hope that makes sense and no, I have no desire to see you leave. I like reading your posts and am honestly curious why anyone would put up with something they feel is so far off.

Now I apologize for hijacking and thank you for your time.
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For the same reason many of us were more than willing to put up with TLDR.

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[QUOTE=Crocodiles And Boulevards]
For the same reason many of us were more than willing to put up with TLDR.
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Okay. Which is what? That he wasn’t that bad? Or hell, I’m not sure what, so will you help me out here? Besides, I really was looking for elfkin’s opinion on those things specifically because it seems that sort of thing rankles more than other stuff.

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[QUOTE=lissener]
TARDL… had a lot of value to contribute to the Dope. Sadly, he was only able to see himself in opposition to others. He was unable to distinguish *agreement *from mindless conformity, and therefore believed that the only way he could be “true to himself” was to maintain a totally contradictory stance to everyone else. So he began threads specifically calculated to inspire opposition and outrage. Unfortunately, this is also defined as trolling. I’ll miss his positive contributions, but not his inability to share them without picking a fight.
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I agree! In fact, his contributions were so positive that the only way I felt I could properly show my appreciation was to swallow a bunch of positive-ionized razor blades and approach his contributions until the magnetic repulsion forced them to rip their way out of my body like so many baby xenomorphs.

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[QUOTE=Patty O’Furniture]
Whener I see “TLDR” I can’t help but think “Top Loader”. Although he’ll always be Vice Chancellor Ozone to me.

Now can we please do something about this guy?
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Have you Emailed a Mod or Admin. I think they have had posters change usernames occasionally when the name is too close to an established username.

The odds are the guest is not aware of you. Probably a very innocent coincidence.

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[QUOTE=faithfool]
Okay. Which is what? That he wasn’t that bad? Or hell, I’m not sure what, so will you help me out here? Besides, I really was looking for elfkin’s opinion on those things specifically because it seems that sort of thing rankles more than other stuff.
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Essentially, some posters are jerkish, but they’re still productive members of the board. I think what a lot of people are saying is just what you said, “He wasn’t that bad.”

For myself, I word it like this, “I don’t have a stick up my arse.” :smiley:

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
I agree! In fact, his contributions were so positive that the only way I felt I could properly show my appreciation was to swallow a bunch of positive-ionized razor blades and approach his contributions until the magnetic repulsion forced them to rip their way out of my body like so many baby xenomorphs.
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Well, I wouldn’t go that far… :wink:

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]
Have you Emailed a Mod or Admin.
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Yeah I have. There have been no new posts since I brought it to their attention. I’m still wondering if anyone here thought that any of those posts he made were actually made by me.

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
I agree! In fact, his contributions were so positive that the only way I felt I could properly show my appreciation was to swallow a bunch of positive-ionized razor blades and approach his contributions until the magnetic repulsion forced them to rip their way out of my body like so many baby xenomorphs.
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It’s official. I have become what I hate. A dick-rider. You make me laugh every time, and I am always compelled to say it out loud, for some reason.

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[QUOTE=elfkin477]
I find it interesting and sad that TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW was banned for “being a jerk” when there are some posters whose only contributions to a large subset of threads are to be hostile and hateful to posters and associated groups. Like those who live for the opportunity to tell us that Christians are evil, that people who are pro-life are immoral, and that conservatives are heartless bastards (and I’m sure there are others that do likewise against liberal views, but these stand out for me). Now that search is working again we could probably produce 50 or more cites each for multiple posters being jerks in this way, yet they never receive warnings. (okay, one person got yelled at for saying they liked ash wednesday so they could spot idiots, but other than that, I’ve yet to see a warning for things much worse)

So… as long as you espouse a fairly popular counterview you can be as hostile to others as you want, but if it’s not a popular alternative view you get warnings of dubious legitimacy then banned? Like I said, interesting.
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Hello? Cite?

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[QUOTE=Patty O’Furniture]
Yeah I have. There have been no new posts since I brought it to their attention. I’m still wondering if anyone here thought that any of those posts he made were actually made by me.
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We’re aware of the problem The new poster hasn’t been back to the board in 4 days now. I’ll bring it up with the PTB. Possibly look for this poster to disappear. We tried the regular route, but if no response, we’ll have to abort him/her. :slight_smile:

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[QUOTE=Patty O’Furniture]
Yeah I have. There have been no new posts since I brought it to their attention. I’m still wondering if anyone here thought that any of those posts he made were actually made by me.
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From this thread:
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Holy crap, I just noticed, that’s a new “Paddy/Patty” in the OP.
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I kind of think it’s funny. You should be proud to have a “minnie-me”.

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[QUOTE=Colibri]
In my opinion, it’s better than most message boards precisely because we discourage people from deliberately and dishonestly provoking negative responses from other posters. YMMV.
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I agree. If I wanted to spend my time wading through an ocean of un-moderated dumbo-spew I have the entire rest of the internet to choose from. Having a prick like VCO3/whatshisface around was just making this place less distinctive and more like every other two-bit moron-forum.

Lots of people seem to be seeing The Beginning Of The End-Times Through Excessive Modocracy - I’d just like to say that in the last 15 years or so I have seem online groups/forums fade away from over-zealous control, from neglect or from being swamped by assholery, and the latter seems far, far more common than the first.

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
…like so many baby xenomorphs.
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a what?

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[QUOTE=BMalion]

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…like so many baby xenomorphs.
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a what?
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The xenomorphs were the Aliens from “Alien” & “Aliens”. The baby famously burst out of John Hurt’s chest (Kane) while he was eating dinner.

There was a great parody of this in “Spaceballs”.

Jim (Of course this means the only safe thing to do is to nuke it from orbit.)

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]
The xenomorphs were the Aliens from “Alien” & “Aliens”. The baby famously burst out of John Hurt’s chest (Kane) while he was eating dinner.

There was a great parody of this in “Spaceballs”.

Jim (Of course this means the only safe thing to do is to nuke it from orbit.)
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I know, I was quoting the movie, the next line should have been “It’s a bug-hunt.”

Kids today.

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[QUOTE=elfkin477]
I find it interesting and sad that TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW was banned for “being a jerk” when there are some posters whose only contributions to a large subset of threads are to be hostile and hateful to posters and associated groups … yet they never receive warnings.
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As long as they’re being openly hostile only in the Pit, no problem.

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What do I look like, the Elias Sports Bureau? Did you miss the word “probably” in my post?

I don’t know what the “again” means here, but I thought that one came from the SDMB. I guess we’re supposed to run a probability analysis on which board which meme came from before we can use it now. I’ll start keeping my graphing calculator by my computer.

I guess this isn’t “offboard stuff”:

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[QUOTE=faithfool]
Serious question for elfkin, if you don’t mind answering…

I’ve noticed a similar sentiment expressed before and although I’ve seen some of what you’re talking about, I’m probably on the ‘wrong’ side of the fence to have noticed it overtly. However, if it is as bad as it sounds according to your post, I’m not sure I could deal with it if I felt the same way. I mean, if that’s how I perceived things on say, a really conservative, fundamentalist type board, I wouldn’t post there. Why do people subject themselves to things they think are unjust if they don’t get anywhere changing things?

I hope that makes sense and no, I have no desire to see you leave. I like reading your posts and am honestly curious why anyone would put up with something they feel is so far off.

Now I apologize for hijacking and thank you for your time.
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I can’t speak for elfkin, of course, but for me, I would say that this is the best general-interest board on the web, and while I do think I’m in the minority in terms of some of my opinions, it’s not like this is a board with an agenda, so to speak.

There is one other board I go to that is also basically also a general-interest board, but the people tend to lean way way more to the right of me. Neither that board nor this one set out to be a representative of a specific point of view politically, but like minds tend to gravitate together, I think. Mods can’t (or shouldn’t, IMO) control that.

The bottom line, for me, is that I don’t think that this board is run overall with a bias. Are the people on it biased, even the mods? Of course, we all are to one degree or another. Do I find it anywhere close to intolerable? No.

That all being said, I’ve been thinking about why the banning of TLDR/VCO3 put me off so much. I think it’s because I really do see him as being the person he presented here. I think lissener is not far off with the of TLDR/VCO3 characterization as a guy who sees himself as standing out of the mainstream, and everything about his demeanor and opinions has to reflect that. The part I don’t agree with is that this is necessarily the definition of trolling. I see “trolling” as a kind of hat a person puts on. That is, they act in a way that is specifically designed to create a kerfluffle, and does not actually relate to the person’s true personality and/or POV. I don’t think (and this is just my opinion based on my observation of TLDR/VCO3) that what he presented here is any kind of put-on.

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So . . . you’re saying he shouldn’t be banned because he *is *a troll, rather than that he’s just *acting *like a troll?

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[QUOTE=samclem]
We’re aware of the problem The new poster hasn’t been back to the board in 4 days now. I’ll bring it up with the PTB. Possibly look for this poster to disappear. We tried the regular route, but if no response, we’ll have to abort him/her. :slight_smile:
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OMG. I always KNEW this board was pro-choice!
(do you really abort posters? :eek: ).