Are "zero dark thirty" and "shock and awe" correct pre-existing military phrases?

I have no clue as to what this means. Undoubtedly intentionally. :slight_smile:

Cool. Ullman and Wade. (I wonder if they know about hendiadys.*)

Scary doctrine. Scarier to be on the receiving end.
*I’m obviously proud of knowing this term.

Midrats: food ration for the midwatch (late watch)

Snipes: members of the engineering crew aboard ship

Sliders: probably hard boiled eggs or some inedible sandwich, IME

Bug juice: like kool-aid without the nutrition and flavor

We usually had both a hard boiled egg and a horse cock sandwich; sometimes a cold, greasy piece of fried chicken.

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:slight_smile: The sliders on my boat were of the cheap imitation soy burger type of meat.

“Oh” and “zero” dark thirty I had heard used interchangebly. It applies to any time in the middle of the night when all the smart & sensible people were in bed sleeping.

When my dad taught me to tell military time back in the '60s, it was always “Oh-” something.

Of course, he had served during WWII; that might have been the custom then and could well have changed, like the Phonetic Alphabet.

Almost nobody said “zero” after boot camp; it was nearly always oh-five hundred, and the like, at least in the navy.

I was in the Army last decade, and we said both “zero” and “Oh”, for real times (oh six hundred) and fake times (oh dark thirty). I do think “Oh” was more common than “zero”, but neither would be out of place.

And here I thought “shock and awe” was invented by the news for the pre-Iraq invasion bombing of Baghdad. Guess that’s because I worked on electronics and not killing people.