Okay I’m an idiot…and a regular reader of Profootballtalk.com. On the site is a thread in which Warren Moon (Hall of fame black qb) addresses the doubters of Carolina Panther quarterback Cam Newton. Newton is a rookie and in his first two games has set a record throwing for 400yards in both games. Nobody has ever accomplished this… Unitas… Montana… Starr…Bradshaw… NOBODY…
Moon had worked with Newton this summer and aggressively defended him against his critics. Of course Warren being a typical guy is now hitting peeps with the “I’m not saying I told you… but basically i told your ass”.
My issue is with a response of one of the readers. The responder said that the Panthers could have taken a defensive player and then drafted Andy Dalton who is also a rookie out of TCU. Dalton was also a heckuva college QB and got drafted by the Bengals in the second round. The responder chosed to refer to Mr Dalton as “unathletic”. The link is here… Warren Moon on Cam Newton: I hate to say I told you so, but... - NBC Sports
First off I’m wagering all my chips that the guy who wrote that is first of all… 1) a guy… 2) a white male…
Since when did white people (Americans specifically) decide that their Johnny and susie’s can’t compete in certain sports?
I’ve seen this at my kids middle school where they’ve come up with Ultimate Frisbee and Lacrosse and a slew of other sports and the basic southern two of football and basketball and really more or less ignored. When i attend AAU tournaments I’m finding fewer and fewer white kids playing basketball. When I’m watching high school football I hear parents/fans make excuses saying… well we (private catholic mostly white school) can’t get into a physical contest with black public school because we can’t win… We’ll have to outsmart or outstrategize them. When i came along in Chicago… their were white guys over on the southwest side of the city who would kick your ass and take your lunch. You learned early on to never sleep on some white irish kid after he flushed on you. My son has stopped playing in a local rec ball league because they won’t allow the full court press… theirs a sense of not pushing the kids because they’ll fail. The little snowflake might not make it… enough is enough…
While all of this is going on European guys who have no clue that they’re suppose to not play basketball and are coming over here and killing. This makes no sense. I understand the dope is not a bastion of sports desire or knowledge… but i would ask you… What messages are your sending your kids… or niece or nephew?? I refuse to allow either of mine to slide by on a …“You’re not a math person”… etc…
You’re making a lot of points at once here and I’m not sure I follow all of it. Are you saying the white parents aren’t pushing their children to compete athletically because they’re afraid of/feel inferior to black athletes?
I would at least argue your point about the European basketball players. They certainly are not coming over here and killing. The failure rate of European NBA draft picks is pretty high.
Clearly he’s talking about a lovely fey Leprechaun dispensing shit-stained golden coins out his pooter all over the offender in question. That mental image came through loud and clear to me, at least.
I’d say get your kids into a different school. Around here, the three time defending state football champions in the top classification is a private Catholic mostly white school.
I’ve raised two competitive athletes (white girls) and I’ve never heard those sentiments from any of their friends or parents. Hell, they couldn’t wait to play the baddest and meanest teams.
Exactly. This is generally only a rule for schools that aren’t any good. Ones like mine who won state championships? Football and basketball are still huge.
I for one applaud schools for coming up with other sports to hold the kids’ interest when the big ones can’t. Ultimate is a great sport that’s easy to get started in.
Oh, and they’re “southern sports” in the sense that they have traditionally been big in the South.
All I know is that there is definitely the idea down here, even in the not-so deep South, that our schools treat traditional sports as more important, and that, up North, said sports are just becoming one of many other extra curricular activities.
If it’s at all true, it’s because the South is just more conservative, and thus taking longer to change. But, still, I understand someone thinking they are Southern sports.
Concur. My brother coaches high school basketball in rural southwestern PA, and his (all-white) squad LOVES getting into a game with the Pittsburgh schools, especially the magnets that are building championship teams out of the greater metro area.
Probably because they win around 30% of the time. After a multi-year string of 0-2 loss regular seasons, they like the occasional challenge.
Football may not be treated like a religion as in Texas, but most people think that is over-the-top and a little silly, but with the exception of a few hockey towns in Minnesota, football has always been far and away the number one sport in high school everywhere I’ve been.
With a few exceptions (Indiana, Kentucky, North Carolina), basketball has always been a city game, associated with New York and D.C. and Chicago and LA. I don’t know anyone who considers it a southern game. That part is just wrong.
After a multi-year string of 0-2 loss regular seasons, they like the occasional challenge.