Argo: Good Film, Not Great Film [Argo reviews thread]

We saw the film Argo yesterday.

We thought the film was good, but I don’t think Ben Affleck needs to clear any room on his shelf for Oscars.

Part of the problem is, if you saw the trailers and know even a tad bit about history, you know exactly what happens in this film. Now granted, just knowing how a film ends is not a deal breaker - I think most people knew the Titanic was not going to be a film about a happy pleasure cruise - and that film scooped up plenty of Oscars.

In Argo, the story kind of fell flat - there really were no great surprises, no real sense of urgent “will they or won’t they” escape, and the “action” scenes were mostly crowds of protestors burning American flags in the streets of Tehran.

The set up was kind of cool - the Hollywood back story was the most fun. But the actual scenes of the six hostages in the Canadian Embassy in Iran were surprisingly boring. You barely got to know the six people, which means you really were not all that invested in their release. To be honest, they mostly came across as very annoying house guests rather than desperate hostages.

Their actual escape had a few moments of mild excitement and thrills - but once again, even this was subdued by the fact that you knew it ended well.

If I had been the script reader, I would have pushed for more of the fun Hollywood story, and then have them at least flesh out the stories of the six hostages a bit better so you gave a damn if they lived or died. The acting was decent, but Ben Affleck played dour throughout, and as director/star and producer, he was pretty much in every scene.

So the film was good - it accomplished what it meant to accomplish - but it just missed any great insight, or twist, or great action adventure. As an audience member, you will get what you paid for and what you probably expected from the story - but sadly, nothing more.

I haven’t seen it, but it’s been getting really good reviews. A film doesn’t necessarily have to be “great” to win Oscars. It just has to be liked by enough Academy voters. Argo strikes me as the type of film that Academy voters will love.

Interesting review DMark, because that’s what I would have expected of the movie.

While DMark’s criticisms are spot-on, I enjoyed the movie. It did a great job of taking my back to the time and place of Iran in 1979-80. I did wonder about:

whether or not they Hollywood-ized the escape scene. Did the Iranian guards really almost catch them right on the plane?

Well sure they will, and it will get a lot of nominations, but not wins. What does it matter anyway? It’s a good movie. That’s all that matters. Not the best of the year or anything, there’s no reason to hype it up so people can knock it down. I agree with DMark about pretty much everything he said.

Oscars don’t figure into whether a movie is good or not anyway. I saw what will be one of my favorites of the year yesterday (that would be Seven Psychopaths), and it’s not likely to get any Oscar nominations, though the director’s other film, In Bruges, got an Original Screenplay nomination so you never know.

That was my point.

[shallow]This has nothing directly to do with the movie other than that it was taken during the promotional tour, but I just wanted to share this picture of Ben Affleck. The man is smart, funny, talented, has a great family, and is salt and pepper sexy.

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Don’t tell my husband.

I was discussing this movie with a friend on the subject of how come somewhat outspoken progressive Liberal such as Ben Affleck ends up getting back to “relevance” by creating aggrandizement to State apparatus. I mean, it’s a celebration of all the things that contributed to where US is today. Right in time for Iran war drums to be heard louder. As someone mentioned, this movie has no significant insight on both how Hollywood or State operates.

But, that’s me from non-US perspective… :o so I’m definitely off-the-wall for sure

I don’t know: the intro certainly took a very dim view of American meddling in Iran. And the news clips interspersed throughout (e.g., beating the Iranian man) were not very sympathetic to “America! Fuck yeah!” attitudes.

Saw it. Agree with the OP all around. Decent movie; nothing epic.

I can’t help but read this post in Alan Arkin’s voice.

Did you actually see the movie, or are you just assuming what its point of view is? The whole point of the opening sequence is to point out how American meddling in Iranian affairs created a domino effect that eventually led to the hostage crisis. And as MilTan points out, there’s liberal use of news footage that makes American reaction to the crisis look terrible. We even hear one of the six hostages that this movie focuses on point out that the U.S. hasn’t exactly been one of the good guys in the past.

I have a hard time seeing how this movie is just an “America, fuck yeah!” self-aggrandizement piece.

Arkin sounded just like The Chief in the recent Steve Carrel “Get Smart” movie. :wink:

The movie is pretty far removed from reality.

Former Canadian ambassador sets the record straight

The more you know about hisory, the less you will know what happens in the film, as it’s heavily fictionalized.

…as does the CIA’s Antonio ‘Tony’ Mendez

A major Hollywood movie didn’t stick entirely to the facts? Perish the thought.

I agree with the OP’s opinion, and said as much to my girlfriend afterwards. I saw it was at 94% at Rotten Tomatoes, which could make you think it was the most awesome movie of the year, but really, that 94% isn’t as misleading as I initially thought - I doubt many people would not like the movie, or think it was bad. It was solid. Just not mind-blowing.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/the-buzz/2012/10/film-review-argo.html

That’s the thing - we did see same movie but only one of us saw images (image as a visual device) created by the movie.

What are you talking about? “Image as a visual device”? Yes, an image is visual. So what? Is that some sort of smug, “Oh ho, you fool, you saw the movie, but you didn’t really see the movie” bullshit?

Again, straight answer: did you see the movie, or are you just going on what that single film review is saying? I can provide a dozen that say the complete opposite. And if you don’t think the opening sequence is supposed to show that the U.S. was at the very root of the problem, what was its purpose?

We saw it this weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it. I did not see it as American propaganda at all, but rather a reminder of why meddling in other countries’ internal affairs ain’t a great idea.

The pacing was excellent, with pretty steady tension broken up with just the right amount of comedy. I thought the acting was well-done, too - especially Bryan Cranston.