Did anyone happen to remember that three things are supposed to happen in about eight years?
1.) The shifting of the poles (The precessional equinox)
2.) Syzygy
3.) The time the Mayan Calendar ends
Amongst these three things, I am sure you can think of many more things that are ‘supposed’ to happen, but this is no simple ‘clocks will reset’ type of an error. I would think that this is on a much larger scale of concern, as it is not only scientific, but historic and possibly inclusive with the bible as well. I mostly want to hear what everyone thinks. What sciences do you see that disprove such an event, and do you think we can save ourselves if such a natural disaster were to occur? Of course, this isn’t the ‘End of the World’, but rather just the end of the one that we know to be our everyday life.
The magnetic poles may, indeed, shift. Over a period of hundreds (maybe even thousands) of years.
What does a simple alignment of the sun, moon, and earth have to do with anything? It’s not like a proper alignment will somehow triple tidal effects or anything.
So the Mayans didn’t create a perpetual calendar. So what?
What event? One of those listed above? #1 isn’t that big a deal, having happened many times in the past. Ditto #2. #3 is just completely irrelevant.
Oops. I didn’t read the part about the precessional equinox. I don’t really see what the fact that the angle of the poles precesses over time has to do with anything. That has been happening for a loooong time.
Ooookay…so, a little sharing of information is in order…
The precessional equinox makes occurs every 28,000 years. This precession is measured by the position of the major zodiac constellations relative to our solar system as the earth spins in space approximately every 26,000 years. This cycle will complete itself in A.D. 2012.
‘On December 21st of that year the solstice sun of our solar system will be aligned in conjunction with the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. Our solar system will then reside on the opposite side of the galactic equator. It is conjectured that the result of this shift will be a momentary field effect reversal of the entire electromagnetic spectrum. The electromagnetic spectrum of the earth has a direct effect on human consciousness. It is also conjectured than an explosion equivalent to a thousand supernovas will occur in the center of our galaxy. If these two events do indeed occur the probability of a global magnetic polar shift or of a tectonic plate shift happening, dramatically increases. The result, if both of these were to happen simultaneously, would be a world cataclysm.’
The Mayans’ calendar was absolutely perfect and without error. There is the fact that the Mayans, like the Egyptians, had pyramids (are the only ones still standing), were advanced in math, science, agriculture, and many other aspect of civilization for their time, and yet, had no knowledge of each other’s existence. The calendar ends supposedly in 2012 because we are in the ‘Fifth age’, or rather, the time in which the fifth precession has ocurred, and the sixth is scheduled to happen in 2012.
The biblical flood also coincides with the last time the the poles made one complete “wobble” on the axis.
I know there is still room for more controversey here, as well as contradictary input, but that’s exactly what I’m looking for. Just a little info.
There is no irrelevance, considering that all of these aspects have everything to do with the mapping of the stars and space, and being able to calculate, predict, and forsee events of natural ocurrences through math, science and astronomy.
Well, considering that life has been moving about Earth’s surface for about a billion years, I’m not too impressed by a mere 26000.
As for the Mayans, if they were so damn prescient, you’d’a think they’d have seen smallpox and measles coming.
And the biblical flood… well, if you’re going to invoke that, then there seems little point in trying to discuss the matter scientifically. Come 2012, I expect to celebrate my 42nd birthday (hey, 42!) and life will go on.
The Moderators. Or maybe it’s a forewarning of Armageddon.
I’m not a scientist, but I have absolutely no idea why this would happen. By the way, if the precessional equinox happens every 26,000 years, then it has already happen some 173,000 times in the Earth’s history. So far, I don’t think it’s caused any problems.
It does? How so? (Cite?)
Why would this just happen randomly? There aren’t even stars in the center of the galaxy, there’s a black hole. So I’m not sure what would be exploding to begin with.
Except that it strikes me as very improbably that EITHER of the events will happen, let alone both.
Cite? Anyway, to be blunt about it, the Mayans are dead and gone. Why does it matter what their calendar said?
Why is it significant that they did not know of each other? There was no real way to get information halfway around the world at that time.
Did anything important happen at the end of ages one, two, three, or four? You didn’t mention anything, so I’m inclined to think not.
No it doesn’t, because the biblical flood didn’t actually happen.
This isn’t astronomy, Akuma Kage, it’s astrology. Except for the bit about the center of the galaxy exploding with the force of 1,000 supernovae for no good reason; I’m not sure what that is.
Complete itself? It’s a cycle. It never “completes itself”. Whether or not you consider a particular instance of the cycle “complete” depends on when you start measuring, which is completely arbitrary.
The opposite side from what? You can’t measure opposites without comparing to something that you’re measuring the opposite of.
Conjectured by whom? Raving lunatics with no concept of basic physics?
Seems the “raving lunatics” guess was right on the money. What is conjectured to be the cause of this phenomenon? Our solar system is minuscule in the grand scheme of things, and the alignment of one of our planets even more so.
Cite?
So because these ancient peoples liked to build pyramids, were pretty enlightened, and had good calendars, they can now predict the future?
Again, since this precession is cyclical, please enlighten me as to how you determine when one cycle ends and another begins.
The biblical flood is largely considered to be a myth, most likely based on the flooding of the Black Sea.
Besides, of you’re going to take the bible literally, then the world is only ~6,000 years old, which precludes anything with a period of 28,000 from being cyclical.
A little mis information, really. No offense, but this is one of the more crackpot theories I’ve seen recently.
Let me echo Marley23 in stating that what you are describing is not astronomy. It’s astrology, which is a thoroughly debunked, archaic belief that the positions of the stars can predict the future.
Free hint: The stars are relatively stationary, with their apparent motions being cause by the movement of the earth. I’d be quite interested to know how the earth’s position can somehow cause the galactic core to go ultra-nova on us.
I feel I must apologize for the lack of understanding and support you are getting from the dopers here. I doubt they will ever come to realize the serious trouble the world is in for from these important events
So, When can I pick up your stuff?
