How do you feel about what Donald Trump said in regards to the recent shooting at the university? His idea of arming our teachers and/or security guards with guns to prevent another school shooting got different reactions from the security guards at my school such as; “We need to evacuate rather than fight back.” and “Walking around with guns give us a bad image.”
OK, does he want to pay for continuing training in not only basic firearms usage, but using firearms in life-or-death situations against people who likely already plan to die in a shootout? Because last I checked, it’s hard enough for the normal police to prevent shooters from killing people, so I don’t expect these quasi-police security guards to have any better of a success rate.
Increasing the number of police in schools. Another example of conservative nanny-state nonsense, all in the service of political correctness.
And the first time a frustrated, overworked, underpaid teacher starts waving their gun around threatening children who are merely misbehaving, would we then have to arm all the students as well?
Throwing more guns at the problem is asinine, at best.
Is the USA still on the same planet?
wtF are you talking about?
Reported for possible forum change. (ISTM like more of a GD topic.)
The USA is. Trump is not.
Sounds like a good idea. The kids have guns, shouldn’t the teachers have a fighting chance?
It’s all good till some teacher shoots an armed student and panicing students start screaming that a teacher shot a kid and another teacher arrives to take down the rogue teacher. More teachers with more guns arrive and it’ll be like the wild west.
Or some absent minded teacher leaves their gun in the bathroom, some kid finds it, and someone gets shot.
I’m not surprised. AFAIK, in the same way, almost all our police are quite happy not to be routinely armed.
My wife is a teacher. Through her, I know a lot of other teachers. I love my wife but frankly, the idea of giving them guns is laughable. They’d be ten times more likely to shoot themselves than an intruder.
Bingo.
Teachers have enough going on every moment of the school day. We don’t need to add training them how to use a handgun. I don’t mean “here’s you go, have a gun.” If we need more people like professional security guards in our schools, get real ones. Teachers have enough shit to deal with.
Teachers yes, but for G-d’s sake, not the Lunch Lady!
No, Trump is either an idiot, or he panders to idiots. Which for all intents and purposes is the same thing.
The idea of untrained armed civilians heroically stopping shooting rampages or other crimes is largely disproven as right wing fantasy by both actual statistics and common sense.
Lunch Lady Land is terrifying enough as it is.
Electric Ladyland, on the other hand… uh… still shouldn’t have guns. I mean, have you ever been there?
Off to Great Debates. It’ll be happier there.
There is a difference between forcing teachers to be armed and all the requisite cost and training, and allowing those who wish to undertake whatever training and certification process exists to do so and carry while on school grounds. Which do you think Trump suggested? Which are you describing?
In terms of respecting teachers’ autonomy and judgement, as well as in cost and bureaucratic hassle, there certainly is a significant difference between those two policies.
In terms of effectively increasing school safety, and in particular protecting students and teachers against deliberately planned spree killings on school grounds, there doesn’t seem to be much difference at all.
Seriously, it is pretty scary to thing of folks who can’t add toner to their printer using a firearm.
Are you saying that armed citizens who are teachers would have no ability to protect students against planned spree killings?