Arming teachers

You got us! Yes, It’s a gay/jewish consipracy. You don’t want to arm all the teachers, just an insignificant, ineffectual 5%. But we are deliberately hiding that fact by using the word, as you point out, ‘arming’, which means…all…of…the…wait, what the hell are you talking about?

I’ve made it 51 years without ever needing my firearm to defend myself or my family. I’ve also made it 51 years without ever needing a fire extinguisher either. That surely is no guarantee that tomorrow won’t be the day that I will.

I carry a firearm every single day knowing that the chances are I will never need to use it. I also carry it everyday knowing that if a situation arises that I need it and don’t have it I’m screwed. It’s coming knowledge that most police officers will go their entire career never firing their weapon in self defense. They still carry one knowing it has it’s place.

As far as “looking forward to the possibility”, I’ll agree there are probably some out there with fantasies of playing the hero. But, it sure as hell isn’t me or anyone I know. I pray that I’ll never have to take my weapon out of it’s holster and need to point it at a human being. I never want to hurt anyone. However, don’t confuse my reluctance to harm another with my resolve to do so if someone is looking to harm me or my love ones.

I chose to conceal carry not to be able to impose my will on others, but to keep others from imposing their will on me. I realize that odds are I’ll never need my sidearm to protect me, yet I’m realistic enough to know that there are people in this world who are willing to hurt or kill others to get what they want. My firearm is viewed by me as nothing more than an emergency tool, to be used only in an emergency. It’s the tool of choice because it is the best for the job. I understand the great responsibility that comes with the privilege of caring a weapon. And most of all I understand that when it comes to mine and my families safety that I am the one responsible for it.

In short, i don’t carry a weapon to be the big man or to hopefully be the hero. I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

That is perfectly reasonable, obbn. But a crazed teenager with a semi-auto rifle is not reasonable.

That might have been funny if it had had anything to do with my question.

As if we needed more evidence for this being a not-so-bright idea:

Wait until some kid gets hurt from a teacher’s negligent discharge and the parents sue the school district into the stone age.

<stands and applauds>

OBBN, that was incredibly well stated. You hit the nail squarely on the head.

I take it that means that you don’t have a first aid kit or any sort of first aid training, just the ability to put holes into people that you feel are threatening you.

Meaning that when shit hits the fan, you’ll be standing there, looking at your gun, trying to figure out how it will possibly help with a car accident victim, maybe even a member of your own family.

Why do you think the gun would be useless? It’s great for putting victims out of their misery. No need to bother with an ambulance.

Maybe you can shoot a hole in the window of a sinking car to equalize pressure to open the door?

I guess this means that you’re extremely good at making assumptions. Actually, you’re pretty bad at it. Each of our vehicles has a fairly comprehensive first aid kit aboard and my EDC (every day carry) includes a tourniquet that is carried on my person. I have in fact taken several first aid classes over the years and know the steps to take until help arrives.

When the shit his the fan I’ll do the best I can, which is why I’ve taken steps to prepare. I’m sure that, God forbid, if a violent criminal attacks you and your family that you’ll be sitting there with your smugness in your hands trying to figure out how it will possibly help with a soon to be, let’s say stabbing victim, possibly a member of your own family.

Isn’t playing smug I don’t know what I’m talking about assumption games fun?

No one ever killed himself with a fire extinguisher. No child ever accidentally killed a friend or parent with a fire extinguisher. No kid ever stole a fire extinguisher and shot up a school.

Perhaps, but you know what is fact? There have been many children theft have accidentally killed a friend or a parent with a motor vehicle. There has been many children that have stolen a vehicle and killed school children with it. Shall we ban those too?

Tragically children have gotten access to firearms. I’ll be the first to admit that a situation like that should never happen. It is the adults responsibility tho endure that his/ her firearms are secured against unauthorised access and usage. If an adult allows access to a firearm to a person who shouldn’t have one, then they need to be punished as hard as the law allows.

I don’t have asn’t concerns when it comes to unauthorized persons, adults or children, getting a hold of my firearms. All are securely stored in a 1500lb locked steel safe that only I and my wife have the combination. Any weapon not in the safe is under my control and most likely on my person. Each of my children have been introduced to firearms and taught firearm safety from a young age. It’s called being responsible. If an adult is not capable of being responsible, then they have no business owning a firearm.

How will your kids get the guns out to defend themselves if you are not at home?

As your reply was to mine, where the poster was implying that I do not value human life because I don’t carry a gun around all the time, I will allow your smug assumption that I am playing games here slide.

No, but we do register them, require licenses and for the owner to have insurance for them.

Our 13 year old isn’t left home alone. I’m retired, so I’m here when he gets home from school and when we goo out e do so as a family.

When he is finally left alone in our home I will ensure that provisions are made for him to have access to a firearm for self defense. And i will do so knowing that my child is well trained in the use of firearms and firearm safety. I will have seen with my own eyes they he is able to handle a firearm and that he does so in a safe manner, following the rules of firearm safety. I will know this because I will have taught him and I will habe practiced with him. Until I and my wife are completely comfortable with the idea of our child being able to be home alone safely, he won’t be. I can tell you that the age varies depending on the individual and was different for each of our children.

Yawn

In a probably pointless attempt to drag this thread back on-topic, does that punishment also apply to a teacher who allows their firearm to be taken by a student?

To minimize the risk of motor vehicles, I propose some sort of locking mechanism for them, and some sort of registration for the car and test for the driver.
Oh, we have those already for cars? And not for guns? And the idea of a mechanism on guns to only allow registered users to fire them drives the NRA bonkers.
Comparing cars to guns is moronic, unless you agree to the same limitations on guns that exist for cars.

Good for you. But your safe will not protect you or your wife from the gun if you decide to use it on yourself or the other. Which is far more likely to happen than some stranger breaking into your house.